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You certainly don't lose copyright protection of a photo you took because you were told not to do so. You just risk being thrown out of the venue or other legal

by slucidi 12y ago

You certainly don't lose copyright protection of a photo you took because you were told not to do so. You just risk being thrown out of the venue or other legal trouble.

anigbrowl 12y ago
The musical performance is itself copyrighted, by definition. Reproducing part of it without permission is an infringement.
- slucidi 12y ago
  No part of the music being performed is reproduced in a photograph.
  - anigbrowl 12y ago
    A music performance in front of an audience is audiovisual. You would be right if we were talking about a photograph of a radio taken while the performance was broadcast, but we're not. Indeed, when people mention they attended a concert, they say things like 'I went to see my favorite band last week,' as opposed to saying they went to listen to them.
    - deleted 12y ago
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      - anigbrowl 12y ago
        For sure, but that by itself doesn't provide a full defense (per http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html). Bear in mind that if the ticket contractually forbids photography and the event is not in a publicly accessible venue, the issue might well be decided under contract rather than copyright law.
    - anigbrowl 12y ago
      HN shoots the messenger again, I see. I don't make the law, I just tell you about it: http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/rome/summary_rome.html http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/rome/summary_rome.html wikimedia itself observes that shoting without a permit may put you in breach of a contract you signed when you purchased the ticket, as I alluded to above: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter#Concert_photography http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by... ...which is why publishers won't buy photographs without a signed release, such as this one: http://images.tbd.com/entertainment/gaga-release.pdf http://images.tbd.com/entertainment/gaga-release.pdf
  - Rexxar 12y ago
    I'm not sure of this any more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8131785 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8131785 (title "Extracting audio from visual information")
    - delinka 12y ago
      Photographs are not video.

by slucidi 12y ago

You certainly don't lose copyright protection of a photo you took because you were told not to do so. You just risk being thrown out of the venue or other legal trouble.

anigbrowl 12y ago

The musical performance is itself copyrighted, by definition. Reproducing part of it without permission is an infringement.

slucidi 12y ago
No part of the music being performed is reproduced in a photograph.
- anigbrowl 12y ago
  A music performance in front of an audience is audiovisual. You would be right if we were talking about a photograph of a radio taken while the performance was broadcast, but we're not. Indeed, when people mention they attended a concert, they say things like 'I went to see my favorite band last week,' as opposed to saying they went to listen to them.
  - deleted 12y ago
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    - anigbrowl 12y ago
      For sure, but that by itself doesn't provide a full defense (per http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html). Bear in mind that if the ticket contractually forbids photography and the event is not in a publicly accessible venue, the issue might well be decided under contract rather than copyright law.
  - anigbrowl 12y ago
    HN shoots the messenger again, I see. I don't make the law, I just tell you about it: http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/rome/summary_rome.html http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/rome/summary_rome.html wikimedia itself observes that shoting without a permit may put you in breach of a contract you signed when you purchased the ticket, as I alluded to above: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter#Concert_photography http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by... ...which is why publishers won't buy photographs without a signed release, such as this one: http://images.tbd.com/entertainment/gaga-release.pdf http://images.tbd.com/entertainment/gaga-release.pdf
- Rexxar 12y ago
  I'm not sure of this any more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8131785 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8131785 (title "Extracting audio from visual information")
  - delinka 12y ago
    Photographs are not video.