Probably not on-topic for HN, but I really agree. I never got why gay people make such a big deal about insisting they are born that way and that it wasn't a c

Probably not on-topic for HN, but I really agree. I never got why gay people make such a big deal about insisting they are born that way and that it wasn't a choice (I'm sure not all do, but every one I've met does, and I've had 2 gay room mates and lived in Boys Town, so I don't think my sample size is particularly small ...). I don't know (or care) if it's a choice or not - I just don't see how it is at all relevant. I really don't care who you want to sleep with/marry/etc - it's none of my (or the government's) business. It's a really stupid way to fight for gay rights. It's exactly the same as trying to fight for integration by saying 'Blacks are born this way - we shouldn't be punished for it' instead of 'My skin color isn't relevant to where I go to school." Even if the first is more expedient in the short-term, I feel like it's just going to do more serious harm in the long-term. It's almost like saying 'Some people were unlucky enough to be born with attribute X. We should try to be charitable to them' The problem is that it still suggests that 'X' is bad thing and that you should 'hate the sin, not the sinner.' It would be much better to simply say 'There's nothing wrong with X.'