>On the other hand, while this is admittedly very anecdotal, one really obvious common thread that I see in the vast majority of great hackers I've met has been

>On the other hand, while this is admittedly very anecdotal, one really obvious common thread that I see in the vast majority of great hackers I've met has been a distrust (if not borderline disdain) for authority and seemingly needless process You are right, and I am one of those people, but there are some brilliant people out there who for some strange reason I cannot comprehend, love every fucking thing about the military. There are also those of us who do feel the way you described, that stay because we foolishly think we might some day be able to make the military a better place. Where I work now, there are lots of former military members. All of us are happy that we don't have to deal with the bureaucracy, but most of us don't regret the time we did spend in the service.