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Possible; My take is that this is what happens when products are developed without strong leadership. The Nano team internalized, and asked themselves "What ha

by e1ven 17y ago

Possible; My take is that this is what happens when products are developed without strong leadership. The Nano team internalized, and asked themselves "What have customers been asking for", and added a radio and camera. The Radio seems to have come out of nowhere- So far as I know, the iPhone/touch don't have them. The iPhone/iPod touch team, on the other hand, continued to not add the Camera, since it's a differentiating feature, as you suggested.

pyre 17y ago
> The Radio seems to have come out of nowhere- So far as I know, the iPhone/touch don't have them. Not necessarily. It was a much-demanded feature for the iPod for a while, though there isn't much customer pressure nowadays. On the other hand, both my Sansa Fuze and my Nokia 5310 have FM tuners in them... Maybe they felt 'peer' pressure to include an FM tuner since there are a lot of other devices out there that do.
- e1ven 17y ago
  Exactly my point- It's like they went to the box of "What have people been asking for", rather than working on a unified strategy through all of the iPod devices. The "Good, Better, Best" strategy is massively broken here.. Do I want HD space? Class. Do I want Video? iPhone or Nano Do I want Photos? iPhone Do I want cheap? Shuffle Do I want Apps, but cheap? iPod Touch We're stuck with a features grid, not a clear progression.
rg 17y ago
"The Radio seems to have come out of nowhere--So far as I know, the iPhone/touch don't have them" No, but the Zune player has long had FM radio, so best to dominate the Microsoft competitor in all dimensions. BTW, FM is very convenient if you have a dedicated old computer streaming internet radio and connect it to a small-commercial-type FM transmitter; you can then get FM reception of internet radio over all of even a large property, automatically in time-sync, using existing audio equipment and "portable radios" including the new Nano. (This is legal in the US, but not in all countries.)
- ComputerGuru 17y ago
  Not really. You don't have any way of tuning to a different channel except while sitting at the PC.
jcl 17y ago
The Radio seems to have come out of nowhere- So far as I know, the iPhone/touch don't have them. Actually, they might. The iPod Touch 2G, at least, contains a chip that has the potential to handle both Bluetooth and FM radio reception. At the time the 2G Touch was released, the chip's Bluetooth and FM capabilities weren't enabled. But according to the following article, the 3.0 software upgrade started using the chip for Bluetooth: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iPod-Touch-Bluetooth,news-3642.html http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iPod-Touch-Bluetooth,news-3642.h... It's possible that the chip's FM capabilities will be enabled on a future software update.

by e1ven 17y ago

pyre 17y ago

> The Radio seems to have come out of nowhere- So far as I know, the iPhone/touch don't have them. Not necessarily. It was a much-demanded feature for the iPod for a while, though there isn't much customer pressure nowadays. On the other hand, both my Sansa Fuze and my Nokia 5310 have FM tuners in them... Maybe they felt 'peer' pressure to include an FM tuner since there are a lot of other devices out there that do.

e1ven 17y ago
Exactly my point- It's like they went to the box of "What have people been asking for", rather than working on a unified strategy through all of the iPod devices. The "Good, Better, Best" strategy is massively broken here.. Do I want HD space? Class. Do I want Video? iPhone or Nano Do I want Photos? iPhone Do I want cheap? Shuffle Do I want Apps, but cheap? iPod Touch We're stuck with a features grid, not a clear progression.

rg 17y ago

"The Radio seems to have come out of nowhere--So far as I know, the iPhone/touch don't have them" No, but the Zune player has long had FM radio, so best to dominate the Microsoft competitor in all dimensions. BTW, FM is very convenient if you have a dedicated old computer streaming internet radio and connect it to a small-commercial-type FM transmitter; you can then get FM reception of internet radio over all of even a large property, automatically in time-sync, using existing audio equipment and "portable radios" including the new Nano. (This is legal in the US, but not in all countries.)

ComputerGuru 17y ago
Not really. You don't have any way of tuning to a different channel except while sitting at the PC.

jcl 17y ago

The Radio seems to have come out of nowhere- So far as I know, the iPhone/touch don't have them. Actually, they might. The iPod Touch 2G, at least, contains a chip that has the potential to handle both Bluetooth and FM radio reception. At the time the 2G Touch was released, the chip's Bluetooth and FM capabilities weren't enabled. But according to the following article, the 3.0 software upgrade started using the chip for Bluetooth: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iPod-Touch-Bluetooth,news-3642.html http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iPod-Touch-Bluetooth,news-3642.h... It's possible that the chip's FM capabilities will be enabled on a future software update.