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The standards war for car charging is going to be a big mess: there is the standard which i3 is using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772 http://en.wikiped
by yread 12y ago
The standards war for car charging is going to be a big mess:
there is the standard which i3 is using
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772
that in itself has (incompatible?) AC (2 levels) and DC (3 levels) variants
then there is this with a completely different plug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHAdeMO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHAdeMO
and another standard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDE-AR-E_2623-2-2#VDE-AR-E_2623-2-2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDE-AR-E_2623-2-2#VDE-AR-E_2623...
China will use yet another one
http://www.longtailpipe.com/2014/02/chinas-electric-car-fast-charging-gbt.html http://www.longtailpipe.com/2014/02/chinas-electric-car-fast...
Oh and then there's Tesla's supercharger network
- TeMPOraL 12y agoLet's hope someone will quickly start manufacturing adapters bridging different standards.
- dm2 12y agoTesla does it so it's definitely possible to manufacture the adapters fairly cheap. From what I've heard the Tesla plug doesn't require a licensing fee so that certainly helps keep the price down for adapters. http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/model-s-charging-adapters http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/model-s-charging-ada...
- yalooze 12y agoEven when everyone's compatible, will you be able to charge on another company's charger? Or will it be like the ATM issues of the past? "You can only withdraw money from your own bank's ATMs"...
- beedogs 12y agoMaybe they'll add premiums for non-partnered manufacturers, or secretly charge them much more slowly, sort of like the Comcast and Verizon of the roads.
- rlpb 12y agoWouldn't charging more slowly risk creating a line behind the charger, causing issues for drivers of the manufacturer's cars waiting in line?
- masklinn 12y agoI expect an EU smash as soon as EV charging networks become popular. That's the kind of stuff it's handled fairly well so far. If you're in the US, you're probably screwed (because liberty)
- timthorn 12y agoIn the UK, most of the charging networks allow roaming by customers of other networks. It isn't comprehensive but so far I've found it good enough.
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- dm2 12y agoAren't there ways to use adapters for increased compatibility? I don't see why companies wouldn't want to partner with Tesla, especially now that they have a significant number of charging stations and I don't think they charge a licensing fee for companies using their plug design.
- sp332 12y agoTesla already sells a SAE J1772 adapter, but it's $750 http://shop.teslamotors.com/products/j1772-connector http://shop.teslamotors.com/products/j1772-connector
- dm2 12y agoThat's for the Roadster, the Model S version is only $95: http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/model-s-charging-adapters/products/sae-j1772 http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/model-s-charging-ada... The BMW vehicle would need the adapter to go the other way though, and apparently the cost can be reasonable. There's no reason why the j1772 to whatever the supercharger connection is should be greater than ~$100.
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- kmfrk 12y agoIt's only a matter of time before we all have to get our own stupid Belkin adapters for our electric cars. :)
- gutnor 12y agoIf you ever have had a LPG car, you are already used to that kind of things. I owned one in the past and crossed the border between 3 countries everyday (Europe ...) - so I had 2 different adapters in the car always.
- pwelch 12y agoI can't agree more. It seems like this is going to slow down the progress until they all give in and choose a standard. Or every car comes with 12 or more converters stored in the trunk...
- kkmickos 12y agoI have faith in EU to set some kind of standard for at least Europe.