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So you think it is valid to leave a 1 star review for a restaurant, because you don't like the menu posted in their website?

by Vik1ng 12y ago

kevinpet 12y ago
What's the proper response to those handful of restaurants that scam tourists who fail to read the menu charging outrageous prices? If only there were some online site I could find out of a business is a rip off before I patronize it.
blisterpeanuts 12y ago
A more accurate analogy: you read the menu and notice in the fine print at the bottom that they will charge your credit card an extra $25 if you post a bad review of your meal. So you get on Yelp and post a review warning others of the practice. Doesn't that seem like a legitimate use of a review site? Technically, yes, you didn't utilize the service, but that doesn't mean you have no qualifications to comment on the business's bad policies. "I drove to the repair shop, they insulted me with ethnic slur, and I got mad and drove away." Would this not be a legitimate and useful review?
- Vik1ng 12y ago
  Doesn't that seem like a legitimate use of a review site? I could just as much consider it a warning to post that their wine selection is bad. Might be important for people who care about that. If you see it that way then you will ALWAYS find something you can spin to make a 1 start review without ever having interacted with the business.
67726e 12y ago
If I walked into a restaurant and the owner threatened to kick my ass if I posted a bad Yelp review and I decided to leave without eating, would I be qualified to write a review about their practices? I didn't eat at the restaurant. There was no business exchange. I'm reviewing the business' policies and warning others of something I find distasteful. In your example, what if I read the online menu and found some fine-print stating they cook their french-frys in orphan tears? Maybe I find that distasteful and want to warn others of such a practice.
- personZ 12y ago
  None of these people walked into the business. I doubt any of them are planning a wedding reception, if even in the target geographic market. This is a standard internet lynch mob. They are always vile, reprehensible things, with real humans as victim. But pile on, everyone.
  - 67726e 12y ago
    And my point went entirely over your head. If someone finds the business policies reprehensible and wants it to be made known, they have a damned right to let it be known. One doesn't just have to purchase a product or service to be allowed to comment.
    - personZ 12y ago
      No, it didn't "go over my head", though if that notion gives you more comfort, have at it. You brought up an absurd anecdote that is baseless and has zero applicability to this issue, but that you think props up your notion. Don't bring up absurd anecdotes if you don't want them deconstructed. Let me say again, and this relates to the sibling comment to yours -- none of these people piling on the internet circle jerk torch mob had any interest or engagement with this business. They weren't en route to book their wedding party when they discovered this. They're just trying to feel good by joining a misled, destructive, abusive mob. It is bullies, pure and simple. Some restaurant I have zero concern about put up a misled threat, in a plain and obvious location, to try to make sure that wedding parties didn't mislead their guests, so now we all must rail about "free speech" and attack someone's business. The employers of people. Yeah, I'm perhaps a little too mature to see that as constructive for anyone. It is vile. This has happened so many times before. And after there is the realization that it was all profoundly silly and destructive.
      - 67726e 12y ago
        If you want to be thick-headed, obnoxious, and obtuse to feel better about yourself, have at it. Given the love of litigation in this country and the cost of legal services, shitty business practices enshrined in the all-powerful contract can wreak havoc on someone. If a group of people who have not given patronage to a business otherwise with to make known that businesses vile practices and horrible attitude, then more power to them. This isn't bullying, this is a group of folks making damn sure that we know of the true bully here, this hotel and it's abusive business practices. Is this whole thing a giant feel-good circle-jerk? Sure as shit is. But you know what? It isn't a bunch of jerks ganging up on a defenseless victim. The jackasses running that business brought it upon themselves by treating their customers like shit and making sure to abuse their position in the business-customer relationship.

So you think it is valid to leave a 1 star review for a restaurant, because you don't like the menu posted in their website?

by Vik1ng 12y ago

So you think it is valid to leave a 1 star review for a restaurant, because you don't like the menu posted in their website?

kevinpet 12y ago

What's the proper response to those handful of restaurants that scam tourists who fail to read the menu charging outrageous prices? If only there were some online site I could find out of a business is a rip off before I patronize it.

blisterpeanuts 12y ago

A more accurate analogy: you read the menu and notice in the fine print at the bottom that they will charge your credit card an extra $25 if you post a bad review of your meal. So you get on Yelp and post a review warning others of the practice. Doesn't that seem like a legitimate use of a review site? Technically, yes, you didn't utilize the service, but that doesn't mean you have no qualifications to comment on the business's bad policies. "I drove to the repair shop, they insulted me with ethnic slur, and I got mad and drove away." Would this not be a legitimate and useful review?

Vik1ng 12y ago
Doesn't that seem like a legitimate use of a review site? I could just as much consider it a warning to post that their wine selection is bad. Might be important for people who care about that. If you see it that way then you will ALWAYS find something you can spin to make a 1 start review without ever having interacted with the business.

67726e 12y ago

If I walked into a restaurant and the owner threatened to kick my ass if I posted a bad Yelp review and I decided to leave without eating, would I be qualified to write a review about their practices? I didn't eat at the restaurant. There was no business exchange. I'm reviewing the business' policies and warning others of something I find distasteful. In your example, what if I read the online menu and found some fine-print stating they cook their french-frys in orphan tears? Maybe I find that distasteful and want to warn others of such a practice.

personZ 12y ago
None of these people walked into the business. I doubt any of them are planning a wedding reception, if even in the target geographic market. This is a standard internet lynch mob. They are always vile, reprehensible things, with real humans as victim. But pile on, everyone.
- 67726e 12y ago
  And my point went entirely over your head. If someone finds the business policies reprehensible and wants it to be made known, they have a damned right to let it be known. One doesn't just have to purchase a product or service to be allowed to comment.
  - personZ 12y ago
    No, it didn't "go over my head", though if that notion gives you more comfort, have at it. You brought up an absurd anecdote that is baseless and has zero applicability to this issue, but that you think props up your notion. Don't bring up absurd anecdotes if you don't want them deconstructed. Let me say again, and this relates to the sibling comment to yours -- none of these people piling on the internet circle jerk torch mob had any interest or engagement with this business. They weren't en route to book their wedding party when they discovered this. They're just trying to feel good by joining a misled, destructive, abusive mob. It is bullies, pure and simple. Some restaurant I have zero concern about put up a misled threat, in a plain and obvious location, to try to make sure that wedding parties didn't mislead their guests, so now we all must rail about "free speech" and attack someone's business. The employers of people. Yeah, I'm perhaps a little too mature to see that as constructive for anyone. It is vile. This has happened so many times before. And after there is the realization that it was all profoundly silly and destructive.
    - 67726e 12y ago
      If you want to be thick-headed, obnoxious, and obtuse to feel better about yourself, have at it. Given the love of litigation in this country and the cost of legal services, shitty business practices enshrined in the all-powerful contract can wreak havoc on someone. If a group of people who have not given patronage to a business otherwise with to make known that businesses vile practices and horrible attitude, then more power to them. This isn't bullying, this is a group of folks making damn sure that we know of the true bully here, this hotel and it's abusive business practices. Is this whole thing a giant feel-good circle-jerk? Sure as shit is. But you know what? It isn't a bunch of jerks ganging up on a defenseless victim. The jackasses running that business brought it upon themselves by treating their customers like shit and making sure to abuse their position in the business-customer relationship.