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"GWAN isn't designed to be a robust webserver, it's designed to perform exceptionally well in contrived and outlandish benchmarks [...]" from http://tomoconnor

by eik3_de 12y ago

"GWAN isn't designed to be a robust webserver, it's designed to perform exceptionally well in contrived and outlandish benchmarks [...]" from http://tomoconnor.eu/blogish/gwan-snakeoil-beware/ http://tomoconnor.eu/blogish/gwan-snakeoil-beware/

MrBuddyCasino 12y ago
Very interesting, and - entertaining. I've had a feeling something was off, looking at the website. If something is too good to be true, it probably is.
- ryanjshaw 12y ago
  Perhaps I'm overly critical and/or cynical, but it's difficult to take this page seriously when there's a graph right at the top showing that IIS 7.0 Windows / C# can handle 0 concurrent users per sec. Either this is a poor attempt at humor (indicating a naive or dangerous opionated author), or the testing isn't thorough (indicating the author isn't thorough enough to care despite making very bold claims about similar software). Neither lead to very promising conclusions about the quality of the software.
  - throwaway-troll 12y ago
    If you look closely, the point is a little past 0, perhaps 5-10. I've read somewhere that, a laboratory has been able to to acheive this level. I'm unable to find the article to back this claim up, however. (I'm a .NET developer)
chrismorgan 12y ago
That article then proceeds to say absolutely nothing about its performance.
- asuffield 12y ago
  From reading the article, it's clear that repeated tries didn't yield a working server. I'm not surprised that there was no performance testing of something that does not work at all.
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userbinator 12y ago
Oh, and their examples are weird. I found this snippet earlier on, and it made me go “Huh?” if(s[0] == '%' && s[1] == '2' && s[2] == '0') // escaped space? That can read past the end of the string if it ends in a '%'. The length check is missing. Maybe it's not such a big deal here, and this is only an example, but if the author's examples are this sloppy, and we can't see the actual source code of his server, then it's hard not to generalise.
- FooBarWidget 12y ago
  It will not read past the string if it's null-terminated.
  - viraptor 12y ago
    It took me a moment to figure out why that won't happen. It could use a comment in that place.
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stefantalpalaru 12y ago
"G-WAN is the Gentoo of the Application Server field." False. Gentoo is all about control and configurability.
devopstom 12y ago
I wrote that (the article, rather than the software), incidentally.. The most interesting thing that happened was that it prompted a Disqus flame-war where I was inundated with comments on that post, and a whole bunch of others from G-WAN employees (and their friends - I presume) taking pot-shots. I realise that my writing style can sometimes be seen as abrasive, but I still don't think that I've done a very good job of explaining my surprise that a) GWAN exists at all, or b) people are actually using it.. I spent a whole weekend trying to get my head inside it, and eventually gave up, after wondering what on earth I was doing.

by eik3_de 12y ago

MrBuddyCasino 12y ago

Very interesting, and - entertaining. I've had a feeling something was off, looking at the website. If something is too good to be true, it probably is.

ryanjshaw 12y ago
Perhaps I'm overly critical and/or cynical, but it's difficult to take this page seriously when there's a graph right at the top showing that IIS 7.0 Windows / C# can handle 0 concurrent users per sec. Either this is a poor attempt at humor (indicating a naive or dangerous opionated author), or the testing isn't thorough (indicating the author isn't thorough enough to care despite making very bold claims about similar software). Neither lead to very promising conclusions about the quality of the software.
- throwaway-troll 12y ago
  If you look closely, the point is a little past 0, perhaps 5-10. I've read somewhere that, a laboratory has been able to to acheive this level. I'm unable to find the article to back this claim up, however. (I'm a .NET developer)

chrismorgan 12y ago

That article then proceeds to say absolutely nothing about its performance.

asuffield 12y ago
From reading the article, it's clear that repeated tries didn't yield a working server. I'm not surprised that there was no performance testing of something that does not work at all.

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userbinator 12y ago

Oh, and their examples are weird. I found this snippet earlier on, and it made me go “Huh?” if(s[0] == '%' && s[1] == '2' && s[2] == '0') // escaped space? That can read past the end of the string if it ends in a '%'. The length check is missing. Maybe it's not such a big deal here, and this is only an example, but if the author's examples are this sloppy, and we can't see the actual source code of his server, then it's hard not to generalise.

FooBarWidget 12y ago
It will not read past the string if it's null-terminated.
- viraptor 12y ago
  It took me a moment to figure out why that won't happen. It could use a comment in that place.
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stefantalpalaru 12y ago

"G-WAN is the Gentoo of the Application Server field." False. Gentoo is all about control and configurability.

devopstom 12y ago

I wrote that (the article, rather than the software), incidentally.. The most interesting thing that happened was that it prompted a Disqus flame-war where I was inundated with comments on that post, and a whole bunch of others from G-WAN employees (and their friends - I presume) taking pot-shots. I realise that my writing style can sometimes be seen as abrasive, but I still don't think that I've done a very good job of explaining my surprise that a) GWAN exists at all, or b) people are actually using it.. I spent a whole weekend trying to get my head inside it, and eventually gave up, after wondering what on earth I was doing.