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How would I make a bell sound? (I know nothing about audio) Can audio / sounds be copyrighted?

by dm2 12y ago

boomlinde 12y ago
> How would I make a bell sound? (I know nothing about audio) Frequency / phase modulation is notoriously useful for bell sounds. The idea is that you modulate the frequency or phase offset of a tone with another, tuned harmonically. I don't think that this tool is appropriate. > Can audio / sounds be copyrighted? Yes
DanBC 12y ago
The closest I got, and it's terrible. http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#{"_version":1,"_name":"Powerup 16","_locked":[],"sampleRate":44100,"attack":0,"sustain":0.29,"sustainPunch":0,"decay":0.95,"tremoloDepth":0,"tremoloFrequency":1,"frequency":1600,"frequencySweep":0,"frequencyDeltaSweep":100,"repeatFrequency":9.4,"frequencyJump1Onset":40,"frequencyJump1Amount":0,"frequencyJump2Onset":66,"frequencyJump2Amount":0,"harmonics":3,"harmonicsFalloff":0.5,"waveform":"sine","interpolateNoise":true,"vibratoDepth":0,"vibratoFrequency":427,"squareDuty":100,"squareDutySweep":0,"flangerOffset":33,"flangerOffsetSweep":-2,"bitCrush":16,"bitCrushSweep":0,"lowPassCutoff":22050,"lowPassCutoffSweep":0,"highPassCutoff":0,"highPassCutoffSweep":0,"compression":1,"normalization":true,"amplification":100} (Yes, that is one huge URL) EDIT: I put the URL in a CODE tag. That fixes the broken page, but breaks the URLification.
- nvader 12y ago
  Just played around with it a little more, came up with this: http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#{"_version":1,"_name":"Powerup 16","_locked":[],"sampleRate":44100,"attack":0,"sustain":0.29,"sustainPunch":0,"decay":0.95,"tremoloDepth":0,"tremoloFrequency":1,"frequency":510,"frequencySweep":0,"frequencyDeltaSweep":100,"repeatFrequency":8.7,"frequencyJump1Onset":40,"frequencyJump1Amount":0,"frequencyJump2Onset":66,"frequencyJump2Amount":0,"harmonics":5,"harmonicsFalloff":0.06,"waveform":"sine","interpolateNoise":true,"vibratoDepth":140,"vibratoFrequency":427,"squareDuty":100,"squareDutySweep":0,"flangerOffset":33,"flangerOffsetSweep":-2,"bitCrush":16,"bitCrushSweep":0,"lowPassCutoff":10100,"lowPassCutoffSweep":0,"highPassCutoff":0,"highPassCutoffSweep":0,"compression":1,"normalization":true,"amplification":100} I was going for a tolling kind of bell.
- dm2 12y ago
  I got somewhat close by starting with the Pickup/coin preset (can click multiple times for a random version). This site has a good amount of premade bells with the waveform graphs: http://www.audioblocks.com/search/?srch-type=sfx&categories=51 http://www.audioblocks.com/search/?srch-type=sfx&categories=...
atrilumen 12y ago
http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/
Kronopath 12y ago
Here's one for you. http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#%7B%22_version%22%3A1%2C%22_name%22%3A%22Powerup%2016%22%2C%22_locked%22%3A%5B%5D%2C%22sampleRate%22%3A44100%2C%22attack%22%3A0%2C%22sustain%22%3A0.29%2C%22sustainPunch%22%3A0%2C%22decay%22%3A1.58%2C%22tremoloDepth%22%3A0%2C%22tremoloFrequency%22%3A1%2C%22frequency%22%3A700%2C%22frequencySweep%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyDeltaSweep%22%3A0%2C%22repeatFrequency%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump1Onset%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump1Amount%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump2Onset%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump2Amount%22%3A0%2C%22harmonics%22%3A5%2C%22harmonicsFalloff%22%3A0.06%2C%22waveform%22%3A%22sine%22%2C%22interpolateNoise%22%3Atrue%2C%22vibratoDepth%22%3A6%2C%22vibratoFrequency%22%3A1%2C%22squareDuty%22%3A100%2C%22squareDutySweep%22%3A0%2C%22flangerOffset%22%3A33%2C%22flangerOffsetSweep%22%3A-2%2C%22bitCrush%22%3A16%2C%22bitCrushSweep%22%3A0%2C%22lowPassCutoff%22%3A10100%2C%22lowPassCutoffSweep%22%3A0%2C%22highPassCutoff%22%3A0%2C%22highPassCutoffSweep%22%3A0%2C%22compression%22%3A1%2C%22normalization%22%3Atrue%2C%22amplification%22%3A100%7D Fiddle with the "frequency" slider to make it more or less high-pitched.
- dm2 12y ago
  That's really good, thanks! I put the frequency at 310 Hz and it sounded very close to what I was looking for. It would be nice if this tool had arrows on the end of the sliders for finer adjustments.
thomastc 12y ago
Author of jfxr here -- wow, made it to the front page of Hacker News briefly, my 5 minutes of fame! Were you looking for something like this? http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#%7B%22_version%22%3A1%2C%22_name%22%3A%22Default%201%22%2C%22_locked%22%3A%5B%5D%2C%22sampleRate%22%3A44100%2C%22attack%22%3A0%2C%22sustain%22%3A0.14%2C%22sustainPunch%22%3A100%2C%22decay%22%3A0.95%2C%22tremoloDepth%22%3A0%2C%22tremoloFrequency%22%3A10%2C%22frequency%22%3A310%2C%22frequencySweep%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyDeltaSweep%22%3A0%2C%22repeatFrequency%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump1Onset%22%3A33%2C%22frequencyJump1Amount%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump2Onset%22%3A66%2C%22frequencyJump2Amount%22%3A0%2C%22harmonics%22%3A3%2C%22harmonicsFalloff%22%3A0.35%2C%22waveform%22%3A%22sine%22%2C%22interpolateNoise%22%3Atrue%2C%22vibratoDepth%22%3A0%2C%22vibratoFrequency%22%3A10%2C%22squareDuty%22%3A50%2C%22squareDutySweep%22%3A0%2C%22flangerOffset%22%3A0%2C%22flangerOffsetSweep%22%3A22%2C%22bitCrush%22%3A16%2C%22bitCrushSweep%22%3A0%2C%22lowPassCutoff%22%3A4900%2C%22lowPassCutoffSweep%22%3A0%2C%22highPassCutoff%22%3A0%2C%22highPassCutoffSweep%22%3A0%2C%22compression%22%3A1%2C%22normalization%22%3Atrue%2C%22amplification%22%3A100%7D http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#%7B%22_version%22%3A1%2C%22_n... Starting from a default sine shape, I set some sustain + punch for the initial, loud part, then a long decay to make it fade out. Then added some harmonics (overtones) to get it to sound more natural. I fiddled with the flanger to add a metallic ringing effect, and finally, I set a low-pass filter to take some of the edge off.
- dm2 12y ago
  I was thinking more of a boxing bell, like the 3rd one on this page: http://mp3skull.com/mp3/boxing_bell.html http://mp3skull.com/mp3/boxing_bell.html named 79074^boxing bell mp3 Nice tool BTW, I could see lots of areas for expansions such as community sharing and allowing people to edit sounds somehow and then share their version, with ratings of course. Also some way to upload an existing MP3 and then edit that would be awesome.

How would I make a bell sound? (I know nothing about audio) Can audio / sounds be copyrighted?

by dm2 12y ago

How would I make a bell sound? (I know nothing about audio) Can audio / sounds be copyrighted?

> How would I make a bell sound? (I know nothing about audio) Frequency / phase modulation is notoriously useful for bell sounds. The idea is that you modulate the frequency or phase offset of a tone with another, tuned harmonically. I don't think that this tool is appropriate. > Can audio / sounds be copyrighted? Yes

DanBC 12y ago

The closest I got, and it's terrible. http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#{"_version":1,"_name":"Powerup 16","_locked":[],"sampleRate":44100,"attack":0,"sustain":0.29,"sustainPunch":0,"decay":0.95,"tremoloDepth":0,"tremoloFrequency":1,"frequency":1600,"frequencySweep":0,"frequencyDeltaSweep":100,"repeatFrequency":9.4,"frequencyJump1Onset":40,"frequencyJump1Amount":0,"frequencyJump2Onset":66,"frequencyJump2Amount":0,"harmonics":3,"harmonicsFalloff":0.5,"waveform":"sine","interpolateNoise":true,"vibratoDepth":0,"vibratoFrequency":427,"squareDuty":100,"squareDutySweep":0,"flangerOffset":33,"flangerOffsetSweep":-2,"bitCrush":16,"bitCrushSweep":0,"lowPassCutoff":22050,"lowPassCutoffSweep":0,"highPassCutoff":0,"highPassCutoffSweep":0,"compression":1,"normalization":true,"amplification":100} (Yes, that is one huge URL) EDIT: I put the URL in a CODE tag. That fixes the broken page, but breaks the URLification.

nvader 12y ago
Just played around with it a little more, came up with this: http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#{"_version":1,"_name":"Powerup 16","_locked":[],"sampleRate":44100,"attack":0,"sustain":0.29,"sustainPunch":0,"decay":0.95,"tremoloDepth":0,"tremoloFrequency":1,"frequency":510,"frequencySweep":0,"frequencyDeltaSweep":100,"repeatFrequency":8.7,"frequencyJump1Onset":40,"frequencyJump1Amount":0,"frequencyJump2Onset":66,"frequencyJump2Amount":0,"harmonics":5,"harmonicsFalloff":0.06,"waveform":"sine","interpolateNoise":true,"vibratoDepth":140,"vibratoFrequency":427,"squareDuty":100,"squareDutySweep":0,"flangerOffset":33,"flangerOffsetSweep":-2,"bitCrush":16,"bitCrushSweep":0,"lowPassCutoff":10100,"lowPassCutoffSweep":0,"highPassCutoff":0,"highPassCutoffSweep":0,"compression":1,"normalization":true,"amplification":100} I was going for a tolling kind of bell.
dm2 12y ago
I got somewhat close by starting with the Pickup/coin preset (can click multiple times for a random version). This site has a good amount of premade bells with the waveform graphs: http://www.audioblocks.com/search/?srch-type=sfx&categories=51 http://www.audioblocks.com/search/?srch-type=sfx&categories=...

atrilumen 12y ago

http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/

Kronopath 12y ago

Here's one for you. http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#%7B%22_version%22%3A1%2C%22_name%22%3A%22Powerup%2016%22%2C%22_locked%22%3A%5B%5D%2C%22sampleRate%22%3A44100%2C%22attack%22%3A0%2C%22sustain%22%3A0.29%2C%22sustainPunch%22%3A0%2C%22decay%22%3A1.58%2C%22tremoloDepth%22%3A0%2C%22tremoloFrequency%22%3A1%2C%22frequency%22%3A700%2C%22frequencySweep%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyDeltaSweep%22%3A0%2C%22repeatFrequency%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump1Onset%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump1Amount%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump2Onset%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump2Amount%22%3A0%2C%22harmonics%22%3A5%2C%22harmonicsFalloff%22%3A0.06%2C%22waveform%22%3A%22sine%22%2C%22interpolateNoise%22%3Atrue%2C%22vibratoDepth%22%3A6%2C%22vibratoFrequency%22%3A1%2C%22squareDuty%22%3A100%2C%22squareDutySweep%22%3A0%2C%22flangerOffset%22%3A33%2C%22flangerOffsetSweep%22%3A-2%2C%22bitCrush%22%3A16%2C%22bitCrushSweep%22%3A0%2C%22lowPassCutoff%22%3A10100%2C%22lowPassCutoffSweep%22%3A0%2C%22highPassCutoff%22%3A0%2C%22highPassCutoffSweep%22%3A0%2C%22compression%22%3A1%2C%22normalization%22%3Atrue%2C%22amplification%22%3A100%7D Fiddle with the "frequency" slider to make it more or less high-pitched.

dm2 12y ago
That's really good, thanks! I put the frequency at 310 Hz and it sounded very close to what I was looking for. It would be nice if this tool had arrows on the end of the sliders for finer adjustments.

thomastc 12y ago

Author of jfxr here -- wow, made it to the front page of Hacker News briefly, my 5 minutes of fame! Were you looking for something like this? http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#%7B%22_version%22%3A1%2C%22_name%22%3A%22Default%201%22%2C%22_locked%22%3A%5B%5D%2C%22sampleRate%22%3A44100%2C%22attack%22%3A0%2C%22sustain%22%3A0.14%2C%22sustainPunch%22%3A100%2C%22decay%22%3A0.95%2C%22tremoloDepth%22%3A0%2C%22tremoloFrequency%22%3A10%2C%22frequency%22%3A310%2C%22frequencySweep%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyDeltaSweep%22%3A0%2C%22repeatFrequency%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump1Onset%22%3A33%2C%22frequencyJump1Amount%22%3A0%2C%22frequencyJump2Onset%22%3A66%2C%22frequencyJump2Amount%22%3A0%2C%22harmonics%22%3A3%2C%22harmonicsFalloff%22%3A0.35%2C%22waveform%22%3A%22sine%22%2C%22interpolateNoise%22%3Atrue%2C%22vibratoDepth%22%3A0%2C%22vibratoFrequency%22%3A10%2C%22squareDuty%22%3A50%2C%22squareDutySweep%22%3A0%2C%22flangerOffset%22%3A0%2C%22flangerOffsetSweep%22%3A22%2C%22bitCrush%22%3A16%2C%22bitCrushSweep%22%3A0%2C%22lowPassCutoff%22%3A4900%2C%22lowPassCutoffSweep%22%3A0%2C%22highPassCutoff%22%3A0%2C%22highPassCutoffSweep%22%3A0%2C%22compression%22%3A1%2C%22normalization%22%3Atrue%2C%22amplification%22%3A100%7D http://jfxr.frozenfractal.com/#%7B%22_version%22%3A1%2C%22_n... Starting from a default sine shape, I set some sustain + punch for the initial, loud part, then a long decay to make it fade out. Then added some harmonics (overtones) to get it to sound more natural. I fiddled with the flanger to add a metallic ringing effect, and finally, I set a low-pass filter to take some of the edge off.

dm2 12y ago
I was thinking more of a boxing bell, like the 3rd one on this page: http://mp3skull.com/mp3/boxing_bell.html http://mp3skull.com/mp3/boxing_bell.html named 79074^boxing bell mp3 Nice tool BTW, I could see lots of areas for expansions such as community sharing and allowing people to edit sounds somehow and then share their version, with ratings of course. Also some way to upload an existing MP3 and then edit that would be awesome.