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> Israel is a nuclear state They've never confirm this, only that it is believe that Israel possess nuclear weapons. > Culturally and historically, the state
by digitalzombie 12y ago
> Israel is a nuclear state
They've never confirm this, only that it is believe that Israel possess nuclear weapons.
> Culturally and historically, the state of Israel was established by the Allies post WW2. So there is a moral obligation as well for the Allies (US, France, UK, etc. etc.) to watch out for what Israel does today.
There shouldn't be any morale obligation at all when they, the Jewish people chose the spot to become Israel. We, USA, didn't assign it for them. US, historically, didn't even care about Israel when they were attacked, the British were the only one that really back them up. US ties between Israel are more powerful later on, so this statement is false in term of morality.
> Ultimately, Israel is a bastion for Western values in the middle east.
And yet they are condemn by the majority in the UN except for USA veto.
> Do you think ISIS will be more concerned with Israel (who have a military within marching distance), or with Europeans / Americans that they've sworn to destroy half-way around the world? Who will they attack first?
Total fantasy. This fantasy is also fear mongering, in term of "what ifs". Even if this fantasy come true, you don't think Nato or those US carriers that are station nearby isn't going to bomb them like Korsovo?
And how smart are they to operate nuclear weapons? How long will it take them to learn how to use it?
> Besides, if Israel falls, their nuclear stockpile will cause some major issues.
Once again fear mongering.
Let's look at it this way, they got nuclear weapon, so they got a free pass for their horrible behavior against USA? The President and John Kerry?
- dragontamer 12y agoI appreciate your serious response. Let's look at it this way, they got nuclear weapon, so they got a free pass for their horrible behavior against USA? The President and John Kerry? It isn't horrible behavior. It is standard behavior that has been going on since the dawn of Israel. We catch their spies all the time, and they catch our spies all the time. US / Israel relations are funny like that. We don't really trust each other, but we both need each other.
- nayefc 12y agoYou don't need each other. All what Israel does is alienate the US and protects Israel's horrific acts and occupation of the Palestinian people.
- dragontamer 12y agoThe way I see it, the US is currently using its influence to hold Israel back. If it weren't for the US, Israel would have long ago already performed a "first strike" against Iran. Anyway, I think Israel's "occupation" of the Gaza strip technically ended in 2005. Gaza is the current location of conflict once again, because Hamas (not "Palestine", but Hamas specifically) is using Gaza as a spring board to launch rockets into Israel. I understand Israel's point of view. Israel _gave up_ Gaza 9 years ago, and the current conflict is the thanks that they get for leaving. Mind you, it is Israel that supplies water, power, and utilities to the people in Gaza. Furthermore, the "Palestinians" are hardly a group of unified people. They are a divided, complicated group that have been proven difficult to reason with. IE: Hamas does not represent the typical Palestinians, and Israel seems to understand that. At very least, the Israel Electric Corp who are sending their engineers to fix power lines to Gaza (while under rocket fire) are willing to work with the people living within the Gaza strip. Don't boil this discussion into a silly "Red vs Blue" fight. The politics of this region are very complicated.
- nayefc 12y agoYou are mistaken on too many dimensions.