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"Culturally and historically, the state of Israel was established by the Allies post WW2." Is demonstrably not true. A substantial amount of immigration was the

"Culturally and historically, the state of Israel was established by the Allies post WW2." Is demonstrably not true. A substantial amount of immigration was the product of the late 19th century Zionist movement. Ever hear of the Balfour declaration? If Israel is ever in danger of being destroyed, they will undoubtedly use their Sampson option, and probably just nuke the rest of the Middle East (possibly some of Europe as well, and undoubtedly Mecca and Medina). That's not the kind of Western values I support.

dragontamer 12y ago
Strike Two. You take another swipe, and you cannot divert your attention away from a specific word that I used in my original post. Classic Conspiracy Theorist: you have an inability to read my entire post and address my more powerful points. Instead, you focus on the points that cause you the most emotional response. Lemme help focus your attention... Please address this point. Between Israel and the US, who do you think will ISIS attack first? Anyone with a map can tell you that Israel is far closer and far more of a threat to ISIS than the US right now (especially with our "hands off" approach to Syria and Iraq). Israel takes the flak from a lot of militant extremists, so we don't have to. Its a practical arrangement.
- ZanyProgrammer 12y ago
  "Between Israel and the US, who do you think will ISIS attack first?" You really think ISIS will ever attack the US? In what manner? Though I suppose it'd be blowback from invading Iraq in the first place. Israel and the US mess up the Middle East, then proclaim its our sovereign right to mess it up some more.
  - dragontamer 12y ago
    ISIS is an offshoot of Al Qaeda. They will be able to attack us in a similar manner as the Boston Marathon attack. If a 9/11 style infiltration of this country were to happen, they would easily affect us in that manner. I'd rather not discuss how I'd attack the US. But needless to say, we are quite vulnerable to a smaller-scale 9/11 style attack, where foreigners invade us and plant bombs at mundane locations. There are plenty of festivals, infrastructure, and gatherings that are vulnerable in the US to another "Boston Marathon" massacre. And unlike Boston, the majority of places in the US don't have simultaneous access to six world-class hospitals + highly-educated medical population to care for the wounded. Keep that in mind, the casualties number was low because Boston hospitals were so close and world-class in their care abilities. In most cities, random dudes on the street wouldn't know to pinch specific arteries to save your life. Boston was a unique place with medical know-how and lots of highly-trained medical response at the ready. http://www.vosizneias.com/128409/2013/04/16/unlikely-hero-in-cowboy-hat-saves-lives-at-marathon-finish-line/ http://www.vosizneias.com/128409/2013/04/16/unlikely-hero-in... If such an attack happened anywhere else, I guarantee you that more people would have died / been injured.

dragontamer 12y ago

Strike Two. You take another swipe, and you cannot divert your attention away from a specific word that I used in my original post. Classic Conspiracy Theorist: you have an inability to read my entire post and address my more powerful points. Instead, you focus on the points that cause you the most emotional response. Lemme help focus your attention... Please address this point. Between Israel and the US, who do you think will ISIS attack first? Anyone with a map can tell you that Israel is far closer and far more of a threat to ISIS than the US right now (especially with our "hands off" approach to Syria and Iraq). Israel takes the flak from a lot of militant extremists, so we don't have to. Its a practical arrangement.

ZanyProgrammer 12y ago
"Between Israel and the US, who do you think will ISIS attack first?" You really think ISIS will ever attack the US? In what manner? Though I suppose it'd be blowback from invading Iraq in the first place. Israel and the US mess up the Middle East, then proclaim its our sovereign right to mess it up some more.
- dragontamer 12y ago
  ISIS is an offshoot of Al Qaeda. They will be able to attack us in a similar manner as the Boston Marathon attack. If a 9/11 style infiltration of this country were to happen, they would easily affect us in that manner. I'd rather not discuss how I'd attack the US. But needless to say, we are quite vulnerable to a smaller-scale 9/11 style attack, where foreigners invade us and plant bombs at mundane locations. There are plenty of festivals, infrastructure, and gatherings that are vulnerable in the US to another "Boston Marathon" massacre. And unlike Boston, the majority of places in the US don't have simultaneous access to six world-class hospitals + highly-educated medical population to care for the wounded. Keep that in mind, the casualties number was low because Boston hospitals were so close and world-class in their care abilities. In most cities, random dudes on the street wouldn't know to pinch specific arteries to save your life. Boston was a unique place with medical know-how and lots of highly-trained medical response at the ready. http://www.vosizneias.com/128409/2013/04/16/unlikely-hero-in-cowboy-hat-saves-lives-at-marathon-finish-line/ http://www.vosizneias.com/128409/2013/04/16/unlikely-hero-in... If such an attack happened anywhere else, I guarantee you that more people would have died / been injured.