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"It's part of the process of becoming adult at my opinion to know how to face these kind of incidents." Part of the process of becoming an adult is to learn ho

"It's part of the process of becoming adult at my opinion to know how to face these kind of incidents." Part of the process of becoming an adult is to learn how we, as a societey can work ourselves up, so that robberies are not a necessity or a regularity, at all.

judk 12y ago
And here we have the distinction between reality and wishful thinking
- superuser2 12y ago
  Eh, not necessarily. I have an iOS 7 iPhone with a PIN and Find my iPhone; it has no resale value without my AppleID password, which is necessary to wipe the device. My credit card is a useless piece of plastic the moment I get to a phone and have it disabled. There is really no incentive to rob me on the street unless I'm carrying my laptop, but I'm pretty conservative about where/when I do that. We can certainly lower the rewards for street robbery while keeping the risks high; Apple took a pretty major step already.
  - DanBC 12y ago
    > My credit card is a useless piece of plastic the moment I get to a phone and have it disabled. Let's hope street robbers don't start kidnapping people and milking the balance out of their accounts over a few days rather than just robbing cards. http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/2382134.print/ http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/2382134.print/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-400032/Teenager-kidnapped-knifepoint-cashpoint-card.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-400032/Teenager-kidn... http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/news/armed-gang-kidnapped-beat-up-6852879 http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/news/armed-gang-kidnapped-...
    - JoeAltmaier 12y ago
      That's a very different crime than simple robbery. 5 years to life. May as well kill the victim.
  - jotm 12y ago
    Don't worry, the thugs who rob you are so smart and tech-savvy that they already know how to unlock the iPhones and drain your card in minutes. ...Or, they have no fucking clue and will just take everything you have on you because they're mugging you :-)
    - StavrosK 12y ago
      Your comment is circular reasoning. GP says "they have no reason to mug me", and you say "they're mugging you because they're mugging you".
      - DanBC 12y ago
        GP says "they uave no reason to mug me" Reply says "do the muggers know that? They mug people, and they might not know that an iPhone X is worthless to them" That's not circular.
        superuser2 12y ago
        They don't know it now, but eventually people will figure out that they're impossible to fence. You're lowering the reward while holding the risk constant. As technology makes the street value of stolen items lower and lower, eventually street robbery will be less attractive.
      - jotm 12y ago
        What I mean is that they've already decided to mug you, they'll take that phone whether it's locked or not, whether they know it or not ("maybe we can get our computer guy to unlock it!"). On the other hand, having the phone send out photos and GPS coordinates is a much better idea, and it's been proven to work.
        StavrosK 12y ago
        Sure, in this specific instance, they may do that. However, after stealing phones that turn out to be unusable (and pretty much something that will lead the police right to them), they will stop mugging people.

judk 12y ago

And here we have the distinction between reality and wishful thinking

superuser2 12y ago
Eh, not necessarily. I have an iOS 7 iPhone with a PIN and Find my iPhone; it has no resale value without my AppleID password, which is necessary to wipe the device. My credit card is a useless piece of plastic the moment I get to a phone and have it disabled. There is really no incentive to rob me on the street unless I'm carrying my laptop, but I'm pretty conservative about where/when I do that. We can certainly lower the rewards for street robbery while keeping the risks high; Apple took a pretty major step already.
- DanBC 12y ago
  > My credit card is a useless piece of plastic the moment I get to a phone and have it disabled. Let's hope street robbers don't start kidnapping people and milking the balance out of their accounts over a few days rather than just robbing cards. http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/2382134.print/ http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/2382134.print/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-400032/Teenager-kidnapped-knifepoint-cashpoint-card.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-400032/Teenager-kidn... http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/news/armed-gang-kidnapped-beat-up-6852879 http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/news/armed-gang-kidnapped-...
  - JoeAltmaier 12y ago
    That's a very different crime than simple robbery. 5 years to life. May as well kill the victim.
- jotm 12y ago
  Don't worry, the thugs who rob you are so smart and tech-savvy that they already know how to unlock the iPhones and drain your card in minutes. ...Or, they have no fucking clue and will just take everything you have on you because they're mugging you :-)
  - StavrosK 12y ago
    Your comment is circular reasoning. GP says "they have no reason to mug me", and you say "they're mugging you because they're mugging you".
    - DanBC 12y ago
      GP says "they uave no reason to mug me" Reply says "do the muggers know that? They mug people, and they might not know that an iPhone X is worthless to them" That's not circular.
      - superuser2 12y ago
        They don't know it now, but eventually people will figure out that they're impossible to fence. You're lowering the reward while holding the risk constant. As technology makes the street value of stolen items lower and lower, eventually street robbery will be less attractive.
    - jotm 12y ago
      What I mean is that they've already decided to mug you, they'll take that phone whether it's locked or not, whether they know it or not ("maybe we can get our computer guy to unlock it!"). On the other hand, having the phone send out photos and GPS coordinates is a much better idea, and it's been proven to work.
      - StavrosK 12y ago
        Sure, in this specific instance, they may do that. However, after stealing phones that turn out to be unusable (and pretty much something that will lead the police right to them), they will stop mugging people.