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Yes, but we wouldn't have cars or 1080p in the first place. Why would you develop 1080p technology if you were perfectly happy with 480p? Who would support your

Yes, but we wouldn't have cars or 1080p in the first place. Why would you develop 1080p technology if you were perfectly happy with 480p? Who would support your research and business by purchasing a 1080p tv, if they were already satisfied? I never said any of this technology enhances our level of happiness. I just said as a species, being constantly unhappy could be one of our greatest strengths. Otherwise, we might be sitting in a cave, smiling at each other until an asteroid removed us from existence.

xorcist 12y ago
I think you should read philwelch's post again. You seem to see development as an intrisic good thing, whereas philwelch does not (or at least questions it). There is a world of difference between freezing in a cave and developing 1080p/2160p/4320p.
- Throwaway823 12y ago
  I think people living in the modern world, with all of our technology are no more happy than a caveman sitting by a fire with his family. However, to survive as a species in the long term, we need to leave this planet. To do that, we need a number of advancements in technology. So, if we can agree the survival of the species is in our benefit, then we can agree development is considered a good thing, even if it doesn't equate to an increase in happiness for the individual.
  - mdda 12y ago
    Except for medical technology : without it, the cave-man would have far fewer years of expected life-span to enjoy sitting by the fire with his family. And many of those years would be filled with ill-health, etc.
  - philwelch 12y ago
    What's the damn point of surviving as a species on other planets? Because at that point, we'd be a different species anyway.
rhizome 12y ago
Who would support your research and business by purchasing a 1080p tv, if they were already satisfied? Regular people may have been satisfied, but the military wasn't, who drove almost all of the research into the 80s. The consumer market is just a follow-on to that, where choices were presented to "me" as better.

xorcist 12y ago

I think you should read philwelch's post again. You seem to see development as an intrisic good thing, whereas philwelch does not (or at least questions it). There is a world of difference between freezing in a cave and developing 1080p/2160p/4320p.

Throwaway823 12y ago
I think people living in the modern world, with all of our technology are no more happy than a caveman sitting by a fire with his family. However, to survive as a species in the long term, we need to leave this planet. To do that, we need a number of advancements in technology. So, if we can agree the survival of the species is in our benefit, then we can agree development is considered a good thing, even if it doesn't equate to an increase in happiness for the individual.
- mdda 12y ago
  Except for medical technology : without it, the cave-man would have far fewer years of expected life-span to enjoy sitting by the fire with his family. And many of those years would be filled with ill-health, etc.
- philwelch 12y ago
  What's the damn point of surviving as a species on other planets? Because at that point, we'd be a different species anyway.

rhizome 12y ago

Who would support your research and business by purchasing a 1080p tv, if they were already satisfied? Regular people may have been satisfied, but the military wasn't, who drove almost all of the research into the 80s. The consumer market is just a follow-on to that, where choices were presented to "me" as better.