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I really really have a hard time understanding the google+ hate around here. Yes, I can understand the issue with the real names policy that hit youtube. Yes

I really really have a hard time understanding the google+ hate around here. Yes, I can understand the issue with the real names policy that hit youtube. Yes, I can understand the issue with hangouts. But why oh why do so many people also want the entirely voluntarily google+ social network to crash and burn leaving us with Facebook?

jasonwocky 12y ago
Some of us, at least, pretty much hate all social networks.
keerthiko 12y ago
> entirely voluntary google+ social network ... is a bit of a stretch. I believe the vast majority of users on Google+ were strongarmed in. Basically just by having a Google account that they used for anything (gmail, docs, youtube), suddenly a Google+ profile was created for them, and then things like their Android reviews, play store purchases, etc were being associated with the + profile. Yes, I make all information about me available to public when I put it online at all, but I really don't want my every online impact fully traceable back to me and to one another without that being explicit intent. Google+ subversively does that to everything their users do, and it blows.
- reitanqild 12y ago
  Last time I checked it was Facebook who retroactively would chane everything. Again and again. Last time with graph search. G+ however weird it may sound comes off a lot nicer to me.
jacquesm 12y ago
'voluntary'? That's rich. Google+ is the most rammed-down-your-throat product ever on the web.
- reitanqild 12y ago
  You are upvoted even though I think you misread my opinion. I wrote specifically about the "social network" part of it. Maybe I was a bit unclear but I meant the part where you can sort people into circles and share stuff with them. And I still think adding people to groups and sharing stuff with them are is voluntary? The implementation of a common identity across Googles properties? That seemed to have been a smart idea mismanaged badly.
DanBC 12y ago
> I really really have a hard time understanding the google+ hate around here. Because it's a baffling fucking mess. I have several different accounts. G+ integration breaks those totally, leaking information to people I didn't want it leaked to; contacting people I didn't want to contact; making my different Google services much harder to use. And what benefit do I get from it? This is a real question: What does G+ actually give me?

jasonwocky 12y ago

Some of us, at least, pretty much hate all social networks.

keerthiko 12y ago

> entirely voluntary google+ social network ... is a bit of a stretch. I believe the vast majority of users on Google+ were strongarmed in. Basically just by having a Google account that they used for anything (gmail, docs, youtube), suddenly a Google+ profile was created for them, and then things like their Android reviews, play store purchases, etc were being associated with the + profile. Yes, I make all information about me available to public when I put it online at all, but I really don't want my every online impact fully traceable back to me and to one another without that being explicit intent. Google+ subversively does that to everything their users do, and it blows.

reitanqild 12y ago
Last time I checked it was Facebook who retroactively would chane everything. Again and again. Last time with graph search. G+ however weird it may sound comes off a lot nicer to me.

jacquesm 12y ago

'voluntary'? That's rich. Google+ is the most rammed-down-your-throat product ever on the web.

reitanqild 12y ago
You are upvoted even though I think you misread my opinion. I wrote specifically about the "social network" part of it. Maybe I was a bit unclear but I meant the part where you can sort people into circles and share stuff with them. And I still think adding people to groups and sharing stuff with them are is voluntary? The implementation of a common identity across Googles properties? That seemed to have been a smart idea mismanaged badly.

DanBC 12y ago

> I really really have a hard time understanding the google+ hate around here. Because it's a baffling fucking mess. I have several different accounts. G+ integration breaks those totally, leaking information to people I didn't want it leaked to; contacting people I didn't want to contact; making my different Google services much harder to use. And what benefit do I get from it? This is a real question: What does G+ actually give me?