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Sad to hear that. This was interesting work, as a non-google (albeit salesforce-hosted) alternative OT API. Why do these interesting OT-powered projects never

by adityab 12y ago

Sad to hear that. This was interesting work, as a non-google (albeit salesforce-hosted) alternative OT API. Why do these interesting OT-powered projects never live long enough? Notable exception being Etherpad... /rant Questions to GoInstant folks: 1. Quill is a good project. Will it live on? I remember noticing Quill when starting work on a very similar product (not yet released) with the same working name. ;) 2. What happens to the OT API? Will you open source it for the benefit of the public? Shameless plug: The WebODF [1] Editor is a very powerful but rather underfunded project that aims to surpass Etherpad in terms of features, which is possible due to it's technical design. Funding would ensure that people would get something that could one day approach Google Docs' word processor, feature-wise. I've been working hard on it with three other developers for the past two years but money is always required. :( [1] http://webodf.org/ http://webodf.org/

segphault 12y ago
I've also been following Quill development and it looks very promising. It's worth noting that the same GoInstant developers have been working on a project called Tandem, which is an OT server implementation that uses the same underlying delta format as Quill: https://github.com/tandem/tandem https://github.com/tandem/tandem I hope that they will continue to work on it as an open source project now that GoInstant is going away.
- adityab 12y ago
  Tandem looks interesting. However a cursory look at the source reveals that it actually uses the diff-match-patch technique and not OT, which is fine for plaintext, but ultimately a bad choice for Quill... To be fair, I have not investigated the implementation more.
  - jhchen 12y ago
    Tandem does implement OT and can handle rich text. The dependency on diff-match-patch is just for their diff function, not their sync system. We actually recently switched to jsdiff as well.
jhchen 12y ago
Quill maintainer here. Yes Quill will live on. It was originally open sourced at Salesforce while I was on the GoInstant team but is not dependent on either for continued existence.

by adityab 12y ago

segphault 12y ago

I've also been following Quill development and it looks very promising. It's worth noting that the same GoInstant developers have been working on a project called Tandem, which is an OT server implementation that uses the same underlying delta format as Quill: https://github.com/tandem/tandem https://github.com/tandem/tandem I hope that they will continue to work on it as an open source project now that GoInstant is going away.

adityab 12y ago
Tandem looks interesting. However a cursory look at the source reveals that it actually uses the diff-match-patch technique and not OT, which is fine for plaintext, but ultimately a bad choice for Quill... To be fair, I have not investigated the implementation more.
- jhchen 12y ago
  Tandem does implement OT and can handle rich text. The dependency on diff-match-patch is just for their diff function, not their sync system. We actually recently switched to jsdiff as well.

jhchen 12y ago

Quill maintainer here. Yes Quill will live on. It was originally open sourced at Salesforce while I was on the GoInstant team but is not dependent on either for continued existence.