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When you say "I don't think it's worth the effort for everybody", that's exclusionary, and totally counter the tone of the article, so I don't think your commen

by munin 12y ago

When you say "I don't think it's worth the effort for everybody", that's exclusionary, and totally counter the tone of the article, so I don't think your comment belongs in the thread about this article.

VMG 12y ago
So the negation would be "Learning Haskell is worth the effort for everybody". I think it is arrogant to say that when there are thousands of skills to learn and a limited amount of time.
- munin 12y ago
  And it's not arrogant to say "it's too hard"?
  - VMG 12y ago
    That is not what "I don't think it's worth the effort for everybody" means. Some people have a greater return on investment improving their skills for a language they already know, learning a language that is not Haskell, or learning a skill that is unrelated to programming.
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  - tolmasky 12y ago
    This is an incredibly strange series of comments. OP simply stated that in his assessment from his use of the language (and the time it took him to learn it), that it isn't for everyone, and thus HE won't be spreading it. Notice he doesn't speak about preventing other people from spreading it or anything of the like, he's simply making a personal decision of what he will evangelize. You have to be in a uniquely defensive mindset to cast this reasoning, a reasoning we ALL have to do eventually given limited time, as "arrogant". I personally think learning assembly is not worth most people's time. If I were to teach a web programming class I might choose to skip assembly. Can I be sure that people wouldn't get something out of it? Of course not. Is it "arrogant" of me to assume that people will find it hard and it is not the best use of their time, no, thats ridiculous. There are more topics than time, so its fine for me to choose what I believe is most helpful to other people to preach about.
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When you say "I don't think it's worth the effort for everybody", that's exclusionary, and totally counter the tone of the article, so I don't think your commen

by munin 12y ago

VMG 12y ago
So the negation would be "Learning Haskell is worth the effort for everybody". I think it is arrogant to say that when there are thousands of skills to learn and a limited amount of time.
- munin 12y ago
  And it's not arrogant to say "it's too hard"?
  - VMG 12y ago
    That is not what "I don't think it's worth the effort for everybody" means. Some people have a greater return on investment improving their skills for a language they already know, learning a language that is not Haskell, or learning a skill that is unrelated to programming.
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  - tolmasky 12y ago
    This is an incredibly strange series of comments. OP simply stated that in his assessment from his use of the language (and the time it took him to learn it), that it isn't for everyone, and thus HE won't be spreading it. Notice he doesn't speak about preventing other people from spreading it or anything of the like, he's simply making a personal decision of what he will evangelize. You have to be in a uniquely defensive mindset to cast this reasoning, a reasoning we ALL have to do eventually given limited time, as "arrogant". I personally think learning assembly is not worth most people's time. If I were to teach a web programming class I might choose to skip assembly. Can I be sure that people wouldn't get something out of it? Of course not. Is it "arrogant" of me to assume that people will find it hard and it is not the best use of their time, no, thats ridiculous. There are more topics than time, so its fine for me to choose what I believe is most helpful to other people to preach about.
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