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Where in the world are you getting #2 and #3? Al Qaeda is very clearly a terrorist group, and no where in that article is it suggested that open source softwar

Where in the world are you getting #2 and #3? Al Qaeda is very clearly a terrorist group, and no where in that article is it suggested that open source software is either treasonous or related to terrorism, nor does it say the NSA thinks this.

djb_hackernews 12y ago
Honest question, what is a terrorist group?
snarfy 12y ago
Al Qaeda literally translated means 'the camp'. They would catch people proclaiming they had to 'get back to al qaeda'. There is no organization. That's just TV make believe, a label they put on any group that doesn't like western views and is a possible threat. "It must be another Al Qaeda cell." It's all nonsense.
- walshemj 12y ago
  This is meaningless semantics a word can have more than one meaning eg "hacker" and one real word example Sinn Féin means Ourselves Alone so that means the IRA and PIRA are not Terrorist organisations?
  - snarfy 12y ago
    The point is there is not one overarching mastermind organization controlling it all, but that's what it's made out to be. They might as well call it COBRA so they can send GI Joe in to save the day. Al Qaeda. Bah. If the IRA didn't exist long before 9/11, they would have been labeled Al Qaeda too.
    - meowface 12y ago
      Your interpretation is not right. Al Qaeda is not all orchestrated by one mastermind, but it is a consortium of related Islamist extremist groups. It's pretty safe to say that anyone who identifies as a member of Al Qaeda is interested in killing civilians.
      - walshemj 12y ago
        I think on analyst described Al Qaeda as a franchise.
        meowface 12y ago
        Yeah, that's even more accurate than my description.
lectrick 12y ago
#2 I got directly from the definition of Terrorism on Wikipedia, word-for-word. #3: "Instead, al-Qaida has started incorporating more sophisticated open-source code to help disguise its communications. 'This is as close to proof that you can get that these have changed and improved their communications structure post the Snowden leaks,' Ahlberg said." The insinuation here is that making powerful tools available via open source is dangerous. Don't you see it?

djb_hackernews 12y ago

Honest question, what is a terrorist group?

snarfy 12y ago

Al Qaeda literally translated means 'the camp'. They would catch people proclaiming they had to 'get back to al qaeda'. There is no organization. That's just TV make believe, a label they put on any group that doesn't like western views and is a possible threat. "It must be another Al Qaeda cell." It's all nonsense.

walshemj 12y ago
This is meaningless semantics a word can have more than one meaning eg "hacker" and one real word example Sinn Féin means Ourselves Alone so that means the IRA and PIRA are not Terrorist organisations?
- snarfy 12y ago
  The point is there is not one overarching mastermind organization controlling it all, but that's what it's made out to be. They might as well call it COBRA so they can send GI Joe in to save the day. Al Qaeda. Bah. If the IRA didn't exist long before 9/11, they would have been labeled Al Qaeda too.
  - meowface 12y ago
    Your interpretation is not right. Al Qaeda is not all orchestrated by one mastermind, but it is a consortium of related Islamist extremist groups. It's pretty safe to say that anyone who identifies as a member of Al Qaeda is interested in killing civilians.
    - walshemj 12y ago
      I think on analyst described Al Qaeda as a franchise.
      - meowface 12y ago
        Yeah, that's even more accurate than my description.

lectrick 12y ago

#2 I got directly from the definition of Terrorism on Wikipedia, word-for-word. #3: "Instead, al-Qaida has started incorporating more sophisticated open-source code to help disguise its communications. 'This is as close to proof that you can get that these have changed and improved their communications structure post the Snowden leaks,' Ahlberg said." The insinuation here is that making powerful tools available via open source is dangerous. Don't you see it?