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You can't say these things on HN. It's not nice. Putin is a villain, period. Who are you to spoil the bashing with your rational arguments?

VMG 12y ago
For sarcasm to work it must mock something that does exist.
- huhtenberg 12y ago
  Are you saying that strong anti-Russian bias doesn't exist on HN? You must be reading it in some filtered form.
  - dictum 12y ago
    Conflating "anti-Putin" with "anti-Russian" doesn't help your argument.
  - VMG 12y ago
    There probably is an anti-Putin sentiment, but there are good reasons for that. In any case, the post you replied to wasn't even pro-Putin and hasn't been punished by any anti-Putin bias on HN.
  - true_religion 12y ago
    Just because people don't like a particular person doesn't mean they are biased against them. Their dislike could be rooted strongly in the actions the person has committed. By the way, its very difficult to prove bias against a single person as opposed to a group. With a group, you can show bias easily by pointing out someones dislike for a member of the group who only shares superficial traits with the rest of the group (e.g. ethnicity/nationality/gender/etc.). But for a person? Even if you're suspicious of every seemingly innocuous action of them, it can be justified by saying they have lost your trust due to actions in the past.
cell303 12y ago
I personally enjoyed this comment and this type of humor in general. It was witty, critical and open about it's satirical nature, distinguishing it from a troll post (which would disguise itself as genuine extremist view). Unfortunately the community doesn't seem to enjoy it as much as I do. Quite the opposite actually. The comment specifically touches the following issues. * The community's overall pro-western tendency * Pointing out that the parent comment has been one of the few moderate ones in a thread that has otherwise been rather 'emotionally charged' As much as I enjoy the content and the discussions here, the lack of appreciation of satire has always puzzled me.

VMG 12y ago

For sarcasm to work it must mock something that does exist.

huhtenberg 12y ago
Are you saying that strong anti-Russian bias doesn't exist on HN? You must be reading it in some filtered form.
- dictum 12y ago
  Conflating "anti-Putin" with "anti-Russian" doesn't help your argument.
- VMG 12y ago
  There probably is an anti-Putin sentiment, but there are good reasons for that. In any case, the post you replied to wasn't even pro-Putin and hasn't been punished by any anti-Putin bias on HN.
- true_religion 12y ago
  Just because people don't like a particular person doesn't mean they are biased against them. Their dislike could be rooted strongly in the actions the person has committed. By the way, its very difficult to prove bias against a single person as opposed to a group. With a group, you can show bias easily by pointing out someones dislike for a member of the group who only shares superficial traits with the rest of the group (e.g. ethnicity/nationality/gender/etc.). But for a person? Even if you're suspicious of every seemingly innocuous action of them, it can be justified by saying they have lost your trust due to actions in the past.

cell303 12y ago

I personally enjoyed this comment and this type of humor in general. It was witty, critical and open about it's satirical nature, distinguishing it from a troll post (which would disguise itself as genuine extremist view). Unfortunately the community doesn't seem to enjoy it as much as I do. Quite the opposite actually. The comment specifically touches the following issues. * The community's overall pro-western tendency * Pointing out that the parent comment has been one of the few moderate ones in a thread that has otherwise been rather 'emotionally charged' As much as I enjoy the content and the discussions here, the lack of appreciation of satire has always puzzled me.