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I hope he realizes this, as much as I hope everybody else realizes this, that the only reason why he got the violation reduced was because he brought his attorn

I hope he realizes this, as much as I hope everybody else realizes this, that the only reason why he got the violation reduced was because he brought his attorney on board. Anybody who lives in California whose contested a ticket knows that 9/10 times (if not even more than that) judges side with the officers -- whether they have a strong case or not -- the State of California certainly doesn't want it's residents to get any ideas.. if you know what I mean. I wonder if his attorney cost more than the actual citation? Most people can't afford lawyer fees, so cops in California get away with this small stuff all the time without any fuss, whether they were liable or not. Congrats Joshua Block -- BTW I loved "Effective Java"!

blumentopf 12y ago
I'm surprised they exonerated him, considering his driving history... Turns out he apparently blew a red light with his Boxster in 2010 and hit another car: http://attitudeofgratitude.typepad.com/attitude_of_gratitude/2011/11/one-year-later.html http://attitudeofgratitude.typepad.com/attitude_of_gratitude...
- gertef 12y ago
  That's a strange story. According to the blogger's version og the incident, he was struck an injured by someone clearly breaking the law. Why wasn't the other driver detained by police and arrested?
uwe_dushan 12y ago
I managed to win 3 tickets in CA (over a period of about 9 years) using trial by written declaration. In fact one of them was using a very similar argument to OPs. It's a bunch of work as I painstakingly assembled my case with loads of supporting evidence but I think it's important to stand up for yourself. Admittedly all 3 cases were dismissed because the officer didn't bother to write a response but TBWD is a lot cheaper than lawyering up and does sometimes work.
- akshatpradhan 12y ago
  What if there was an online tool to help you assemble your case? Do you think more people would fight tickets?
kelnos 12y ago
There's more than just the citation cost, though. A ticket that involves points will come with a corresponding insurance premium increase for at least a few years.
Alupis 12y ago
> I wonder if his attorney cost more than the actual citation? Doesn't really matter -- getting a[nother] point on your license can be more costly log-term (insurance rates, having to re-take drivers test, etc).

blumentopf 12y ago

I'm surprised they exonerated him, considering his driving history... Turns out he apparently blew a red light with his Boxster in 2010 and hit another car: http://attitudeofgratitude.typepad.com/attitude_of_gratitude/2011/11/one-year-later.html http://attitudeofgratitude.typepad.com/attitude_of_gratitude...

gertef 12y ago
That's a strange story. According to the blogger's version og the incident, he was struck an injured by someone clearly breaking the law. Why wasn't the other driver detained by police and arrested?

uwe_dushan 12y ago

I managed to win 3 tickets in CA (over a period of about 9 years) using trial by written declaration. In fact one of them was using a very similar argument to OPs. It's a bunch of work as I painstakingly assembled my case with loads of supporting evidence but I think it's important to stand up for yourself. Admittedly all 3 cases were dismissed because the officer didn't bother to write a response but TBWD is a lot cheaper than lawyering up and does sometimes work.

akshatpradhan 12y ago
What if there was an online tool to help you assemble your case? Do you think more people would fight tickets?

kelnos 12y ago

There's more than just the citation cost, though. A ticket that involves points will come with a corresponding insurance premium increase for at least a few years.

Alupis 12y ago

> I wonder if his attorney cost more than the actual citation? Doesn't really matter -- getting a[nother] point on your license can be more costly log-term (insurance rates, having to re-take drivers test, etc).