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Is this a joke? > Believe it or not, I basically created this website just so that I could rant about PHP at an appropriate place. > X-Powered-By:PHP/5.4.30

Mithaldu 12y ago
If he wasn't using PHP people would complain that people who don't know PHP shouldn't critique it. Generally someone who uses the language in question is best equipped to critique it.
- headShrinker 12y ago
  Not that I don't agree, but for arguments sake... and what are people to say, if he were using PHP? If he so clearly makes the case that he thinks PHP sucks, shouldn't he have the wisdom to use something else?
  - Mithaldu 12y ago
    These questions are entirely orthogonal: Does a thing suck? Should i use a thing? The answer to both of them can be yes at the same time, while being entirely true. Yes, i know, grokking this requires a little mental nimbleness (seriously though, only a little), but is an unavoidable truth stemming from the inherent complexity of the universe and the interactions of everything in it. There is no black and white. There is only a vast morass of grey in a variety of dimensions whose numbers vastly outstrip what the human mind normally has to deal with. And one of the points in that morass is where all programming languages sit: They suck, and given the right conditions they should be used. And frankly, if you REALLY want to find out what sucks about a programming language, the best person to ask is someone who both has a deep love for the language which has given him the experience; and the integrity to be honest to himself, and the world, about what ailments that language really has.
- brandon272 12y ago
  Perhaps they would. We don't always have a choice in what language we use. Sometimes we do. In this case, he did. And he chose PHP. Not that it's here nor there, just seems ironic!
bmoresbest55 12y ago
I read the first paragraph, stopped and wondered if he was using php for the site and there it is. I need not to investigate any further. Thx.

Mithaldu 12y ago

If he wasn't using PHP people would complain that people who don't know PHP shouldn't critique it. Generally someone who uses the language in question is best equipped to critique it.

headShrinker 12y ago
Not that I don't agree, but for arguments sake... and what are people to say, if he were using PHP? If he so clearly makes the case that he thinks PHP sucks, shouldn't he have the wisdom to use something else?
- Mithaldu 12y ago
  These questions are entirely orthogonal: Does a thing suck? Should i use a thing? The answer to both of them can be yes at the same time, while being entirely true. Yes, i know, grokking this requires a little mental nimbleness (seriously though, only a little), but is an unavoidable truth stemming from the inherent complexity of the universe and the interactions of everything in it. There is no black and white. There is only a vast morass of grey in a variety of dimensions whose numbers vastly outstrip what the human mind normally has to deal with. And one of the points in that morass is where all programming languages sit: They suck, and given the right conditions they should be used. And frankly, if you REALLY want to find out what sucks about a programming language, the best person to ask is someone who both has a deep love for the language which has given him the experience; and the integrity to be honest to himself, and the world, about what ailments that language really has.
brandon272 12y ago
Perhaps they would. We don't always have a choice in what language we use. Sometimes we do. In this case, he did. And he chose PHP. Not that it's here nor there, just seems ironic!

bmoresbest55 12y ago

I read the first paragraph, stopped and wondered if he was using php for the site and there it is. I need not to investigate any further. Thx.