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The worst thing about living in Uruguay is being right next to Them. Now this happens, and we're going to get the fallout.

by eudox 12y ago

cjbprime 12y ago
And here we thought you were going to say that the worst thing about living in Uruguay was the rampant nationalism between Uruguayans and Argentinians..
- janlukacs 12y ago
  Maybe Messi can chip in, i hear he has some dollars stashed for a rainy day: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22877408 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22877408
- jambo 12y ago
  I don't see how this adds to the conversation. Also, Argentina and Uruguay have similar racial composition & as far as I can tell see themselves as the same people of the Rio Plata.
  - cjbprime 12y ago
    I've visited Uruguay, and on one trip when I told my hosts I planned to go over to Buenos Aires for a day, they said I shouldn't go because "the people there are on crack" and I would get kidnapped. I'm pretty sure there's a significant nationalism (you're right, not racism) problem, which the capitalization of "Them" in the post I replied to felt evocative of.
  - djKianoosh 12y ago
    Not to bring too many facts into the discussion, but Uruguay and Argentina dont have similar racial composition: http://www.indexmundi.com/uruguay/demographics_profile.html http://www.indexmundi.com/uruguay/demographics_profile.html http://www.indexmundi.com/argentina/demographics_profile.html http://www.indexmundi.com/argentina/demographics_profile.htm... Uruguay have 12% non-white, Argentina only 3% That's not what I would call "similar".
    - jambo 12y ago
      Sorry, I should have been clearer: they are predominantly white. When I was last in each country, I didn't get any real sense of deep hatred of each other. Though there was some seemingly good natured ribbing about who was better at e.g. asado.
      - djKianoosh 12y ago
        right on.. i grew up in Argentina. and yes there's a rivalry, predominantly friendly, among things like asado, futbol, mate, etc. :) and yes, between arg/uru/bra people are very friendly with each other as long as it doesn't involve futbol ;-)
      - rabble 12y ago
        It's so friendly that Uruguayans and Argentines don't identify the other as foreign. Uruguayans didn't want to be their own country when their started their independence war, it was an attempt to not be part of Spain or Brazil and to be joined with what would become Argentina. It was the British who decided Uruguay would be an independent country. Since then in the last 200 years, they've developed somewhat distinct institutions and cultures. It's similar to the relationship between the US and Canada.
    - miguel3000 12y ago
      You can also use this link if you want to see how the countries compare side by side: http://www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/argentina.uruguay/demographics http://www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/argentina.uruguay...
    - rabble 12y ago
      I think it's a matter of definitions. Demographically the countries are actually more similar, there is just differences in how people identify. The biggest difference between the two countries and cultures is Uruguayans are secular both in personal culture and with regard to the state. Where as Argentines are Catholic. There's also a big difference in political culture, structures of political parties and faith in institutions. Uruguay has much less corruption.
- mobiplayer 12y ago
  Guys, don't fight here. Also, everybody knows the best thing from Argentina is Uruguay (or "how to piss off argentinians and uruguayans in one sentence"). :)
feca 12y ago
A lot of Argentinians visit Uruguay for vacations, and many also keep their savings in Uruguayan banks. I think this won't affect Uruguay negatively. Also, it's sad that you have such a negative view on your neighbors, given that you are very much alike and that they boost Uruguay's economy.
Trufa 12y ago
I don't know why this is being down voted, take a look at what happened in the year 2001, we're terribly dependent on them (thought we're trying not to), this news scares the hell out of me since I don't want it to happen again, last crisis was terrible for us too.
demian 12y ago
Uruguay is completely dependent on Argentina, in both good times and bad times.
pibefision 12y ago
Well, Chile is being in the left, and does not have any problem. Your argument is not very strong. In true, Uruguay has it owns problems.
- gyardley 12y ago
  Chile is separated from Argentina by 'the Great Wall of Chile' - the Andes mountains - and unlike Uruguay, has an economy dominated by mineral resource extraction to China and the United States, not agricultural exports to its immediate neighbors. It's not the same situation at all; context matters.

The worst thing about living in Uruguay is being right next to Them. Now this happens, and we're going to get the fallout.

by eudox 12y ago

The worst thing about living in Uruguay is being right next to Them. Now this happens, and we're going to get the fallout.

cjbprime 12y ago

And here we thought you were going to say that the worst thing about living in Uruguay was the rampant nationalism between Uruguayans and Argentinians..

janlukacs 12y ago
Maybe Messi can chip in, i hear he has some dollars stashed for a rainy day: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22877408 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22877408
jambo 12y ago
I don't see how this adds to the conversation. Also, Argentina and Uruguay have similar racial composition & as far as I can tell see themselves as the same people of the Rio Plata.
- cjbprime 12y ago
  I've visited Uruguay, and on one trip when I told my hosts I planned to go over to Buenos Aires for a day, they said I shouldn't go because "the people there are on crack" and I would get kidnapped. I'm pretty sure there's a significant nationalism (you're right, not racism) problem, which the capitalization of "Them" in the post I replied to felt evocative of.
- djKianoosh 12y ago
  Not to bring too many facts into the discussion, but Uruguay and Argentina dont have similar racial composition: http://www.indexmundi.com/uruguay/demographics_profile.html http://www.indexmundi.com/uruguay/demographics_profile.html http://www.indexmundi.com/argentina/demographics_profile.html http://www.indexmundi.com/argentina/demographics_profile.htm... Uruguay have 12% non-white, Argentina only 3% That's not what I would call "similar".
  - jambo 12y ago
    Sorry, I should have been clearer: they are predominantly white. When I was last in each country, I didn't get any real sense of deep hatred of each other. Though there was some seemingly good natured ribbing about who was better at e.g. asado.
    - djKianoosh 12y ago
      right on.. i grew up in Argentina. and yes there's a rivalry, predominantly friendly, among things like asado, futbol, mate, etc. :) and yes, between arg/uru/bra people are very friendly with each other as long as it doesn't involve futbol ;-)
    - rabble 12y ago
      It's so friendly that Uruguayans and Argentines don't identify the other as foreign. Uruguayans didn't want to be their own country when their started their independence war, it was an attempt to not be part of Spain or Brazil and to be joined with what would become Argentina. It was the British who decided Uruguay would be an independent country. Since then in the last 200 years, they've developed somewhat distinct institutions and cultures. It's similar to the relationship between the US and Canada.
  - miguel3000 12y ago
    You can also use this link if you want to see how the countries compare side by side: http://www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/argentina.uruguay/demographics http://www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/argentina.uruguay...
  - rabble 12y ago
    I think it's a matter of definitions. Demographically the countries are actually more similar, there is just differences in how people identify. The biggest difference between the two countries and cultures is Uruguayans are secular both in personal culture and with regard to the state. Where as Argentines are Catholic. There's also a big difference in political culture, structures of political parties and faith in institutions. Uruguay has much less corruption.
mobiplayer 12y ago
Guys, don't fight here. Also, everybody knows the best thing from Argentina is Uruguay (or "how to piss off argentinians and uruguayans in one sentence"). :)

feca 12y ago

A lot of Argentinians visit Uruguay for vacations, and many also keep their savings in Uruguayan banks. I think this won't affect Uruguay negatively. Also, it's sad that you have such a negative view on your neighbors, given that you are very much alike and that they boost Uruguay's economy.

Trufa 12y ago

I don't know why this is being down voted, take a look at what happened in the year 2001, we're terribly dependent on them (thought we're trying not to), this news scares the hell out of me since I don't want it to happen again, last crisis was terrible for us too.

demian 12y ago

Uruguay is completely dependent on Argentina, in both good times and bad times.

pibefision 12y ago

Well, Chile is being in the left, and does not have any problem. Your argument is not very strong. In true, Uruguay has it owns problems.

gyardley 12y ago
Chile is separated from Argentina by 'the Great Wall of Chile' - the Andes mountains - and unlike Uruguay, has an economy dominated by mineral resource extraction to China and the United States, not agricultural exports to its immediate neighbors. It's not the same situation at all; context matters.