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> Why can't we just admit that some people are born with certain genetic traits that allow them to excel in certain fields? Because throughout all of world his

> Why can't we just admit that some people are born with certain genetic traits that allow them to excel in certain fields? Because throughout all of world history there are many examples of people taking that logic too far in order to consider certain races, certain sexes, and people from certain lands as inherently mentally inferior, and in the worst case, exterminating them in the form of a proposed "solution" to the "problem". People strongly hesitate around this sort of talk for a reason.

sp3000 12y ago
This is the problem. Intellectual ability should never correlate to the inherent worth of an individual. You can be an idiot and still have the same right to happiness and everything else that comes along with being a human being. But this doesn't mean we should not accept certain realities based on how people might interpret science. Science just is. What we need to fix is how people act towards one another.
obvious_throw 12y ago
It's scientific fact that intelligence as measured by any manner of g-factor psychometry has heritability correlates of between 0.4 and 0.5. Furthermore, studies such as the Minnesota transracial adoption study show clearly that these correlates apply within racial groups, having fully negated socioeconomic and parenting factors. We have willfully ignored reality per the ideological dictates of progressivism for the last fifty years. Feelings and ideology trumping reality may work for a while, but it can't last forever when faced with competition from groups and nations that harbor no such illusions, such as the Chinese, who are investing in their genetic research labs to investigate the genetic origins of intelligence so as to benefit their own population generations hence. We, on the other hand, are too frightened to even talk about such investigations. Much to the detriment of our own future.

sp3000 12y ago

This is the problem. Intellectual ability should never correlate to the inherent worth of an individual. You can be an idiot and still have the same right to happiness and everything else that comes along with being a human being. But this doesn't mean we should not accept certain realities based on how people might interpret science. Science just is. What we need to fix is how people act towards one another.

obvious_throw 12y ago

It's scientific fact that intelligence as measured by any manner of g-factor psychometry has heritability correlates of between 0.4 and 0.5. Furthermore, studies such as the Minnesota transracial adoption study show clearly that these correlates apply within racial groups, having fully negated socioeconomic and parenting factors. We have willfully ignored reality per the ideological dictates of progressivism for the last fifty years. Feelings and ideology trumping reality may work for a while, but it can't last forever when faced with competition from groups and nations that harbor no such illusions, such as the Chinese, who are investing in their genetic research labs to investigate the genetic origins of intelligence so as to benefit their own population generations hence. We, on the other hand, are too frightened to even talk about such investigations. Much to the detriment of our own future.