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My bias also leads me to credit Woz more than Jobs, but I admit that I do not know enough about either to have much confidence in that opinion. One thing is cle

by scobar 12y ago

My bias also leads me to credit Woz more than Jobs, but I admit that I do not know enough about either to have much confidence in that opinion. One thing is clear though. Many very smart people who know far more than I do about Woz, Jobs, and Silicon Valley give the highest praise to Jobs. What is so interesting to me is that Paul said something I'd always thought, but hadn't expressed nor heard before. Imagine how many Steve Jobs are out there who aren't able to thrive like they could have if they were born into a different situation. That doesn't devalue the brilliance of Jobs. It simply demonstrates optimism in a civilization with fewer unnecessary limitations. The entire talk was great. Thank you for sharing it.

SwellJoe 12y ago
"Many very smart people who know far more than I do about Woz, Jobs, and Silicon Valley give the highest praise to Jobs." I believe they do so because they're praising the wrong thing. Making money for investors is not all that good of an end in and of itself. Clearly, this is subjective. But, I don't consider Jobs to have been particularly good for the world, despite his many obvious talents at directing the making and marketing of popular products. I have a quite strong anti-Apple bias, based on my belief that Apple has dragged the tech industry backward rather than forward in terms of providing more access to technology education and more access to the technology economy to more people, particularly the poorest people. Just when Open Source was pushing the world toward freely available source code for everything (and succeeding), Apple's App Store was slicing up the pie, with proprietary software effectively being required to participate (locking out all but the relatively wealthy from participating), and serving the biggest piece of that pie to themselves. But, that's just my opinion. Many people think Jobs was great, and that Apple is good rather than a negative force.

by scobar 12y ago

SwellJoe 12y ago

"Many very smart people who know far more than I do about Woz, Jobs, and Silicon Valley give the highest praise to Jobs." I believe they do so because they're praising the wrong thing. Making money for investors is not all that good of an end in and of itself. Clearly, this is subjective. But, I don't consider Jobs to have been particularly good for the world, despite his many obvious talents at directing the making and marketing of popular products. I have a quite strong anti-Apple bias, based on my belief that Apple has dragged the tech industry backward rather than forward in terms of providing more access to technology education and more access to the technology economy to more people, particularly the poorest people. Just when Open Source was pushing the world toward freely available source code for everything (and succeeding), Apple's App Store was slicing up the pie, with proprietary software effectively being required to participate (locking out all but the relatively wealthy from participating), and serving the biggest piece of that pie to themselves. But, that's just my opinion. Many people think Jobs was great, and that Apple is good rather than a negative force.