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> Corporations no longer are loyal to employees It has been that way since at least the mid 90's. I am amazed at the number of people who still think they need

by mhurron 12y ago

> Corporations no longer are loyal to employees It has been that way since at least the mid 90's. I am amazed at the number of people who still think they need to show where they work any kind of loyalty.

mwfunk 12y ago
Corporations are legal entities and don't have qualities like "loyalty", so it doesn't even make sense to anthropomorphize them. The people that work at corporations, including managers and executives, certainly can have those sorts of qualities. Whether or not they do is another story, and that's going to vary widely from one organization to the next. Loyalty is something that's given to and accepted from people, not legal entities. I have absolutely felt degrees of loyalty to some employers and a lack of it to others.
- johnward 12y ago
  Loyalty from a corporate perspective means things like pensions, health care, not laying off 20k people every fall, etc. Like the days that you could work for GE your entire life and actually retire. There was a mutual loyalty. The company took care of you and you therefore took care of the company. Now someone could offer me a couple thousand dollars extra in pay and I'd be gone in a heart beat. Don't forget that legal entity is made of people who decide how that legal entity will function. Also if corporations can't show loyalty, a human quality, then how can they be people?
  - mwfunk 12y ago
    I don't think they are people, but the US legal system disagrees with me of late. :(
- tferraz 12y ago
  It does not make , but it happens. By middle managers or by endomarketing as away to make people work more for less, classic examples are in company that are going bad
johnward 12y ago
I once had a friend take a low paying dev job just because he needed it. He wouldn't qualify for insurance for 3 months and had recently adopted kids. Then another offer came by that paid more and started insurance day one. The employer had the nerve to tell him that they were upset with his lack of loyalty to the company. If that company had any loyalty to the employee he wouldn't have had to work for 3 months without health insurance.

by mhurron 12y ago

mwfunk 12y ago

Corporations are legal entities and don't have qualities like "loyalty", so it doesn't even make sense to anthropomorphize them. The people that work at corporations, including managers and executives, certainly can have those sorts of qualities. Whether or not they do is another story, and that's going to vary widely from one organization to the next. Loyalty is something that's given to and accepted from people, not legal entities. I have absolutely felt degrees of loyalty to some employers and a lack of it to others.

johnward 12y ago
Loyalty from a corporate perspective means things like pensions, health care, not laying off 20k people every fall, etc. Like the days that you could work for GE your entire life and actually retire. There was a mutual loyalty. The company took care of you and you therefore took care of the company. Now someone could offer me a couple thousand dollars extra in pay and I'd be gone in a heart beat. Don't forget that legal entity is made of people who decide how that legal entity will function. Also if corporations can't show loyalty, a human quality, then how can they be people?
- mwfunk 12y ago
  I don't think they are people, but the US legal system disagrees with me of late. :(
tferraz 12y ago
It does not make , but it happens. By middle managers or by endomarketing as away to make people work more for less, classic examples are in company that are going bad

johnward 12y ago

I once had a friend take a low paying dev job just because he needed it. He wouldn't qualify for insurance for 3 months and had recently adopted kids. Then another offer came by that paid more and started insurance day one. The employer had the nerve to tell him that they were upset with his lack of loyalty to the company. If that company had any loyalty to the employee he wouldn't have had to work for 3 months without health insurance.