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The point isn't that you had an exception to the rule in your pocket. The point is that these things are now, thankfully, mainstream and popular. Oh, and compar

by rscott 17y ago

The point isn't that you had an exception to the rule in your pocket. The point is that these things are now, thankfully, mainstream and popular. Oh, and comparing the stylus touchscreens and the iPhone's capacitive touchscreen is kind of like saying processed bologna and ever-delicious bacon are the same because people call them both meat.

dejb 17y ago
So the iPhone was so great because it was so popular? Isn't that a bit self referential? Actually the stylus is pretty powerful. I'm considering getting one for my new Magic. Apart from being able to hand write it is quicker to type as well. > processed bologna and ever-delicious bacon are the same because people call them both meat. They're both just dead animals to me.
- dejb 17y ago
  Seems like some people don't like being reminded of the truth. Every time you mention bacon it brings up images of animals being forced to spend their lives in cruel and squalid conditions. But it is better than the cognitive dissonance that consumers experience when you point this out. Bring it on.
  - unalone 17y ago
    Regarding your comment about the stylus, which was relevant: Any system that doesn't require an extra, easily-lost piece to use is good; I type faster than I handwrite; bullshit re:typing faster. It's far more efficient to use two fingers with no disconnect from your muscle memory than it is to use a single digit that's got a few inches disconnect. As for this little snipefest: Look, dejb, it's not that we don't understand where you're coming from about the animals. We do. The problem is that rscott is using bacon/balogna as a comparison, and you're taking him literally. Want me to take your counterpoint literally? When I see a stylus, I see electrons. Fuck this argument, fuck this site, fuck this existence, it's electrons. You can't argue, you're a bucket of electrons. There. Now I've shat on this whole debate. Let's all go home rather than contemplate the cognitive dissonance that humans experience when you point this out. "Bring it on"? You're a fucking commenter on a fucking Internet thread on a site that's about discussing fucking technology! I'm sorry, but I don't give a shit about your stance regarding animal rights when it's not relevant to this thread. Want my attention? Find a good article about what you think is interesting and submit it. I'd love to read more about this. I don't know a thing about it. But right now, we're discussing the iPhone, not fucking animals. For the record, I have no cognitive dissonance thinking about bacon. I've never seen a dead pig and so the concept is abstract to me. I don't care to make it any more physical because first off, I don't eat bacon, and second off, I don't really give a damn about pigs. It's not in me. Perhaps I'm a psychopath or some shit. But you're either misguided or trolling, and either way it's irritating and a teeny bit hurtful to the community. Cut it out.
    - philwelch 17y ago
      For the first time in my life, I've wanted to save a comment. Bravo. I got a bit of a Tarantino vibe out of that comment which adds a whole other level of cool.
    - beta 17y ago
      Every time someone acts like a troll, we don't need to read through someone's witty retort in response. He's trolling, he knows it, we all know it, and he's downmodded to oblivion for it. That's enough.
      - unalone 17y ago
        I wouldn't have responded, but I thought he raised a semilegitimate argument re:the stylus, and it seemed rude not to respond to the rest.
    - dejb 17y ago
      Why is it OK for someone to randomly bring their preference for bacon into the conversation but it is not OK for me to mention my preference against it? I actually thought my initial comment was pretty innocuous. The voting response to it at the time genuinely surprised me. Somehow it improved markedly since then, as if to invalidate my second comment. Some people can just accept what they perceive as injustice. If someone had casually denigrated black skinned people in the fifties in southern US I like to think I would have found a way to let it be known that I didn't agree. Even if it wasn't the main topic of conversation. > I'd love to read more about this. > I don't really give a damn about pigs. These comments appear to be self contradictory. Much of your post is nonsensical. The fact that so many people are prepared to agree with it astonishing. > and either way it's irritating and a teeny bit hurtful to the community. The fact that it causes such a level of fuss for such an initially innocuous comment is telling. > Cut it out. No.
      - unalone 17y ago
        Why is it OK for someone to randomly bring their preference for bacon into the conversation but it is not OK for me to mention my preference against it? What wasn't okay was that you ignored his entire point for the sake of stating your beliefs. If you'd stated what you did and then followed up with a counterpoint, then you wouldn't have been downvoted, wouldn't have had to bitch back at him, and I wouldn't have involved myself. These comments appear to be self contradictory. I'm willing to give a damn about pigs if you're able to convince me to. As it stands, a damn is not given but I'm willing to change my mind. Much of your post is nonsensical. No it's not. The fact that it causes such a level of fuss for such an initially innocuous comment is telling. I hate any and all derails as obnoxious and self-inflated as yours was—not the original post, mind you, but the follow-up.

by rscott 17y ago

dejb 17y ago

So the iPhone was so great because it was so popular? Isn't that a bit self referential? Actually the stylus is pretty powerful. I'm considering getting one for my new Magic. Apart from being able to hand write it is quicker to type as well. > processed bologna and ever-delicious bacon are the same because people call them both meat. They're both just dead animals to me.

dejb 17y ago
Seems like some people don't like being reminded of the truth. Every time you mention bacon it brings up images of animals being forced to spend their lives in cruel and squalid conditions. But it is better than the cognitive dissonance that consumers experience when you point this out. Bring it on.
- unalone 17y ago
  Regarding your comment about the stylus, which was relevant: Any system that doesn't require an extra, easily-lost piece to use is good; I type faster than I handwrite; bullshit re:typing faster. It's far more efficient to use two fingers with no disconnect from your muscle memory than it is to use a single digit that's got a few inches disconnect. As for this little snipefest: Look, dejb, it's not that we don't understand where you're coming from about the animals. We do. The problem is that rscott is using bacon/balogna as a comparison, and you're taking him literally. Want me to take your counterpoint literally? When I see a stylus, I see electrons. Fuck this argument, fuck this site, fuck this existence, it's electrons. You can't argue, you're a bucket of electrons. There. Now I've shat on this whole debate. Let's all go home rather than contemplate the cognitive dissonance that humans experience when you point this out. "Bring it on"? You're a fucking commenter on a fucking Internet thread on a site that's about discussing fucking technology! I'm sorry, but I don't give a shit about your stance regarding animal rights when it's not relevant to this thread. Want my attention? Find a good article about what you think is interesting and submit it. I'd love to read more about this. I don't know a thing about it. But right now, we're discussing the iPhone, not fucking animals. For the record, I have no cognitive dissonance thinking about bacon. I've never seen a dead pig and so the concept is abstract to me. I don't care to make it any more physical because first off, I don't eat bacon, and second off, I don't really give a damn about pigs. It's not in me. Perhaps I'm a psychopath or some shit. But you're either misguided or trolling, and either way it's irritating and a teeny bit hurtful to the community. Cut it out.
  - philwelch 17y ago
    For the first time in my life, I've wanted to save a comment. Bravo. I got a bit of a Tarantino vibe out of that comment which adds a whole other level of cool.
  - beta 17y ago
    Every time someone acts like a troll, we don't need to read through someone's witty retort in response. He's trolling, he knows it, we all know it, and he's downmodded to oblivion for it. That's enough.
    - unalone 17y ago
      I wouldn't have responded, but I thought he raised a semilegitimate argument re:the stylus, and it seemed rude not to respond to the rest.
  - dejb 17y ago
    Why is it OK for someone to randomly bring their preference for bacon into the conversation but it is not OK for me to mention my preference against it? I actually thought my initial comment was pretty innocuous. The voting response to it at the time genuinely surprised me. Somehow it improved markedly since then, as if to invalidate my second comment. Some people can just accept what they perceive as injustice. If someone had casually denigrated black skinned people in the fifties in southern US I like to think I would have found a way to let it be known that I didn't agree. Even if it wasn't the main topic of conversation. > I'd love to read more about this. > I don't really give a damn about pigs. These comments appear to be self contradictory. Much of your post is nonsensical. The fact that so many people are prepared to agree with it astonishing. > and either way it's irritating and a teeny bit hurtful to the community. The fact that it causes such a level of fuss for such an initially innocuous comment is telling. > Cut it out. No.
    - unalone 17y ago
      Why is it OK for someone to randomly bring their preference for bacon into the conversation but it is not OK for me to mention my preference against it? What wasn't okay was that you ignored his entire point for the sake of stating your beliefs. If you'd stated what you did and then followed up with a counterpoint, then you wouldn't have been downvoted, wouldn't have had to bitch back at him, and I wouldn't have involved myself. These comments appear to be self contradictory. I'm willing to give a damn about pigs if you're able to convince me to. As it stands, a damn is not given but I'm willing to change my mind. Much of your post is nonsensical. No it's not. The fact that it causes such a level of fuss for such an initially innocuous comment is telling. I hate any and all derails as obnoxious and self-inflated as yours was—not the original post, mind you, but the follow-up.