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Typical "smear by association" (without any link whatsoever) from the left: "It is ironic that it took Tony Abbott to bring the worst of 'Asian Values' to Austr

by jamhan 12y ago

Typical "smear by association" (without any link whatsoever) from the left: "It is ironic that it took Tony Abbott to bring the worst of 'Asian Values' to Australia."

imaginenore 12y ago
A smear? Tony Abbott is the idiot who A) dissolved the Climate Commission, because he thinks climate change is a hoax B) is destroying the Great Barrier Reef by removing the carbon tax C) appointed a climate change denier Dick Warburton to review the alternative energy funding D) directly cutting $435m from renewable energy agency, while removing the mining taxes E) asked UNESCO to remove 74,000 hectares of Tasmanian forest from its World Heritage List The guy is the classic right wing moron who only cares about a short term profit ala drill-drill-drill and doesn't give a shit if the environment or the whole plant goes to shit because of it.
- jamhan 12y ago
  Your points have NO relevance to this attempted association to high-level international corruption. Can you provide any relevant information/arguments?
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- nness 12y ago
  Uh, B. isn't correct. The risk to the Great Barrier Reef is to do with a new nearby port for coal exports. The dredging of the area is expected to unsettle seabed which could impact the nearby reef. Despite all that, these are all unrelated to the original post.
  - ScottBurson 12y ago
    I think what (B) is referring to is ocean acidification caused by atmospheric carbon dioxide dissolving. This also threatens coral reefs.
nl 12y ago
It was a stupid thing to add to the release - it not only attempts to smear Abbot, it is also borderline racist. However, I'm not sure you can characterise this as a left vs right issue. Assange attempted to sue (former Labor PM) Gillard over some of her comments too. While I'd probably agree with your implied view that Assange is "of the left", his political views don't align completely with many of the principles that right-wingers think the left holds. For example, his well-known suspicions of the role of government are more closely aligned with the libertarian viewpoint (which is often seen as right-wing). I'd be more comfortable saying he is socially progressive, libertarian on government, with unknown economic views.
- justsee 12y ago
  > It was a stupid thing to add to the release - it not only attempts to smear Abbot, it is also borderline racist. Exactly my sentiments. Adding in commentary like this immediately weakens the broader points, which is unfortunate.
  - nl 12y ago
    Adding in commentary like this immediately weakens the broader points, which is unfortunate. Hmm. Some would argue that by adding in commentary like 'Typical "smear by association" (without any link whatsoever) from the left' it immediately weakens the broader points, which is unfortunate.
    - justsee 12y ago
      Yes, I would be one of those 'Some', but preferred to respond to your characterisation of the issue.
- jamhan 12y ago
  You are right. I should have just made the comment, like you, that I dislike having baseless links added to such releases, just because people don't like our current Prime Minister. It's completely irrelevant and detracts significantly from the seriousness of the information. For what it's worth, I would make the same comment about any Prime Minister, regardless of party or persuasion.
lotsofmangos 12y ago
From what I understand, he is such a lovely guy. "I won't be rushing out to get my daughters vaccinated, maybe that's because I'm a cruel, callow, callous, heartless bastard but, look, I won't be." “Abortion is the easy way out. It’s hardly surprising that people should choose the most convenient exit from awkward situations.” “Jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it’s not necessarily everyone’s place to come to Australia.” “What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up.” “Now, I know that there are some Aboriginal people who aren’t happy with Australia Day. For them it remains Invasion Day. I think a better view is the view of Noel Pearson, who has said that Aboriginal people have much to celebrate in this country’s British Heritage.”
- jamhan 12y ago
  Your points have NO relevance to this attempted association to high-level international corruption. Can you provide any relevant information/arguments?

by jamhan 12y ago

Typical "smear by association" (without any link whatsoever) from the left: "It is ironic that it took Tony Abbott to bring the worst of 'Asian Values' to Australia."

imaginenore 12y ago

A smear? Tony Abbott is the idiot who A) dissolved the Climate Commission, because he thinks climate change is a hoax B) is destroying the Great Barrier Reef by removing the carbon tax C) appointed a climate change denier Dick Warburton to review the alternative energy funding D) directly cutting $435m from renewable energy agency, while removing the mining taxes E) asked UNESCO to remove 74,000 hectares of Tasmanian forest from its World Heritage List The guy is the classic right wing moron who only cares about a short term profit ala drill-drill-drill and doesn't give a shit if the environment or the whole plant goes to shit because of it.

jamhan 12y ago
Your points have NO relevance to this attempted association to high-level international corruption. Can you provide any relevant information/arguments?
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nness 12y ago
Uh, B. isn't correct. The risk to the Great Barrier Reef is to do with a new nearby port for coal exports. The dredging of the area is expected to unsettle seabed which could impact the nearby reef. Despite all that, these are all unrelated to the original post.
- ScottBurson 12y ago
  I think what (B) is referring to is ocean acidification caused by atmospheric carbon dioxide dissolving. This also threatens coral reefs.

nl 12y ago

It was a stupid thing to add to the release - it not only attempts to smear Abbot, it is also borderline racist. However, I'm not sure you can characterise this as a left vs right issue. Assange attempted to sue (former Labor PM) Gillard over some of her comments too. While I'd probably agree with your implied view that Assange is "of the left", his political views don't align completely with many of the principles that right-wingers think the left holds. For example, his well-known suspicions of the role of government are more closely aligned with the libertarian viewpoint (which is often seen as right-wing). I'd be more comfortable saying he is socially progressive, libertarian on government, with unknown economic views.

justsee 12y ago
> It was a stupid thing to add to the release - it not only attempts to smear Abbot, it is also borderline racist. Exactly my sentiments. Adding in commentary like this immediately weakens the broader points, which is unfortunate.
- nl 12y ago
  Adding in commentary like this immediately weakens the broader points, which is unfortunate. Hmm. Some would argue that by adding in commentary like 'Typical "smear by association" (without any link whatsoever) from the left' it immediately weakens the broader points, which is unfortunate.
  - justsee 12y ago
    Yes, I would be one of those 'Some', but preferred to respond to your characterisation of the issue.
jamhan 12y ago
You are right. I should have just made the comment, like you, that I dislike having baseless links added to such releases, just because people don't like our current Prime Minister. It's completely irrelevant and detracts significantly from the seriousness of the information. For what it's worth, I would make the same comment about any Prime Minister, regardless of party or persuasion.

lotsofmangos 12y ago

From what I understand, he is such a lovely guy. "I won't be rushing out to get my daughters vaccinated, maybe that's because I'm a cruel, callow, callous, heartless bastard but, look, I won't be." “Abortion is the easy way out. It’s hardly surprising that people should choose the most convenient exit from awkward situations.” “Jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it’s not necessarily everyone’s place to come to Australia.” “What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up.” “Now, I know that there are some Aboriginal people who aren’t happy with Australia Day. For them it remains Invasion Day. I think a better view is the view of Noel Pearson, who has said that Aboriginal people have much to celebrate in this country’s British Heritage.”

jamhan 12y ago
Your points have NO relevance to this attempted association to high-level international corruption. Can you provide any relevant information/arguments?