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$200k that is insane, it is cheaper to go width own hardware long before that. The server room we have at our office have had max 5 hours of total down time si

$200k that is insane, it is cheaper to go width own hardware long before that. The server room we have at our office have had max 5 hours of total down time since 2011 And we have moved our entire office under that period. I will try to estimate our general costs in EUR. Inital costs for servers, switches, cooling, Racks UPS 150K Replacement of servers every 3-4 years 60K/3 = 20K Internet line = 10K a year Electricity = 2K a year Consulting cost for hardware maintenance = 10K Old servers we put those in an a room a bit away and use them for backups/failsafe. That is about 50K a year. Counting in initial costs and just cause is is till almost nothing compared to 200K a month, I would say that switching to self hosting is financially beneficial when getting to about 10K a month with 3party hosting.

imjk 12y ago
Where are your costs for labor. Is that all included in your consulting cost? If we as an advertising startup decided to migrate all that internally, I'm sure our costs would go up not only in manpower but also from the distraction of dealing with that rather than focusing on our product.
- callesgg 12y ago
  The initial cost was with labor included. The labor is the consulting cost. But to be honest there is not like one has to do much width the hardware. When one hardware server fails all the virtual machines will still just continue on another hardware server. Vmware takes care of that stuff and it just works, at least in our testing of pulling the cords to the server (stuff has not failed yeat). Well if money is no object, you are definitely doing the right thing.
eco 12y ago
Without numbers showing the actual quantities involved this cost comparison is kind of useless. Not that I doubt going with your own hardware is cheaper at those levels, it's just not a conclusion I can draw from what you've written. Also, as others said, labor costs need to be factored in. How much would a comparable setup cost on AWS per year? Once we know that we can draw conclusions.
- callesgg 12y ago
  We did calculations on that about 2 years ago, then it was about 700K pear year. But that left out some cost like Shared network folders that our users use, so we would have needed to get some kind of replacement for our netapp(a form as NAS).

imjk 12y ago

Where are your costs for labor. Is that all included in your consulting cost? If we as an advertising startup decided to migrate all that internally, I'm sure our costs would go up not only in manpower but also from the distraction of dealing with that rather than focusing on our product.

callesgg 12y ago
The initial cost was with labor included. The labor is the consulting cost. But to be honest there is not like one has to do much width the hardware. When one hardware server fails all the virtual machines will still just continue on another hardware server. Vmware takes care of that stuff and it just works, at least in our testing of pulling the cords to the server (stuff has not failed yeat). Well if money is no object, you are definitely doing the right thing.

eco 12y ago

Without numbers showing the actual quantities involved this cost comparison is kind of useless. Not that I doubt going with your own hardware is cheaper at those levels, it's just not a conclusion I can draw from what you've written. Also, as others said, labor costs need to be factored in. How much would a comparable setup cost on AWS per year? Once we know that we can draw conclusions.

callesgg 12y ago
We did calculations on that about 2 years ago, then it was about 700K pear year. But that left out some cost like Shared network folders that our users use, so we would have needed to get some kind of replacement for our netapp(a form as NAS).