I think we're talking about different things. The kinds of suburbs people are lambasting here are almost by definition places where the only things in non-driv

I think we're talking about different things. The kinds of suburbs people are lambasting here are almost by definition places where the only things in non-driving distance are houses and some basic amenities (schools, big box/grocery stores, maybe a library). Once you're to the point of having more than a couple of restaurants in walking distance (that aren't Perkins) that's not really what we're thinking of when we blast "suburbs."