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Ya, I'd rather not give them money if their policy is to allow some ads if given $.

by miah_ 12y ago

mhaymo 12y ago
ABP's free. Getting on the whitelist is also free for "all small- and medium websites and blogs". https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements If you're ok with blocking ads, I don't see how allowing companies to pay a fee to have them unblocked hurts anyone. If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky.
- zz1 12y ago
  Yes, but whitelist is supposed to be for unobtrusive and not tracking ads. Then Google pays and… it is on whitelist! I cannot help but think that by using ABP instead of Adblock Edge you are giving ABP developers means to blackmail advertising companies. And not getting the protection you want in the first place.
  - mhaymo 12y ago
    That's not my understanding of how it works. You cannot pay to get obtrusive or tracking ads on the whitelist. If you are a large company (how exactly that's defined isn't clear), you need to pay to get your unobtrusive ads whitelisted. https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads
    - throwaway2048 12y ago
      Google ads are tracking ads, and the ability to track is not listed as an unacceptable criterion.
    - tripzilch 12y ago
      > You cannot pay to get obtrusive or tracking ads on the whitelist. > If you are a large company (how exactly that's defined isn't clear), you need to pay to get your unobtrusive ads whitelisted. Yeah that's a pretty clear conflict of interest, isn't it? And it's violated right there with Google because the type of tracking ads that Google Ads are shouldn't have been allowed. For a non-paying party. As long as they stay true to their self-imposed rules for "acceptable ads".
- BrainInAJar 12y ago
  > If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky. Or perhaps the ads themselves are the icky part, and internet complacency in finding other business models is the problem
- serf 12y ago
  > If you're ok with blocking ads, I don't see how allowing companies to pay a fee to have them unblocked hurts anyone. If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky. Couldn't be further from the truth. Ad revenue is icky by itself, in nearly any form. The fact that an industry sprung up to counter it (ad block software) points to the fact that the general public likely agrees with that. If you don't feel that the psychological tracking and trickery of John Q. Public in order to sell him a new toilet paper holder is 'icky', then I don't know what to tell you. I do, and it seems many others share my feelings.

Ya, I'd rather not give them money if their policy is to allow some ads if given $.

by miah_ 12y ago

Ya, I'd rather not give them money if their policy is to allow some ads if given $.

ABP's free. Getting on the whitelist is also free for "all small- and medium websites and blogs". https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements If you're ok with blocking ads, I don't see how allowing companies to pay a fee to have them unblocked hurts anyone. If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky.

zz1 12y ago
Yes, but whitelist is supposed to be for unobtrusive and not tracking ads. Then Google pays and… it is on whitelist! I cannot help but think that by using ABP instead of Adblock Edge you are giving ABP developers means to blackmail advertising companies. And not getting the protection you want in the first place.
- mhaymo 12y ago
  That's not my understanding of how it works. You cannot pay to get obtrusive or tracking ads on the whitelist. If you are a large company (how exactly that's defined isn't clear), you need to pay to get your unobtrusive ads whitelisted. https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads
  - throwaway2048 12y ago
    Google ads are tracking ads, and the ability to track is not listed as an unacceptable criterion.
  - tripzilch 12y ago
    > You cannot pay to get obtrusive or tracking ads on the whitelist. > If you are a large company (how exactly that's defined isn't clear), you need to pay to get your unobtrusive ads whitelisted. Yeah that's a pretty clear conflict of interest, isn't it? And it's violated right there with Google because the type of tracking ads that Google Ads are shouldn't have been allowed. For a non-paying party. As long as they stay true to their self-imposed rules for "acceptable ads".
BrainInAJar 12y ago
> If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky. Or perhaps the ads themselves are the icky part, and internet complacency in finding other business models is the problem
serf 12y ago
> If you're ok with blocking ads, I don't see how allowing companies to pay a fee to have them unblocked hurts anyone. If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky. Couldn't be further from the truth. Ad revenue is icky by itself, in nearly any form. The fact that an industry sprung up to counter it (ad block software) points to the fact that the general public likely agrees with that. If you don't feel that the psychological tracking and trickery of John Q. Public in order to sell him a new toilet paper holder is 'icky', then I don't know what to tell you. I do, and it seems many others share my feelings.