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"“If you have everything but land – if you have a population that is displaced – whether that allows you to be a state is a novel question,”" Jews would have d
by knz42 12y ago
"“If you have everything but land – if you have a population that is displaced – whether that allows you to be a state is a novel question,”"
Jews would have disagreed that this is a novel question -- for them the question has been about for around 2000 years if not more.
- masklinn 12y ago2600 years, according to wikipedia the Diaspora started with the conquest of the Kingdom of Judah by Babylone (started in 597BCE and ended with the destruction of the first temple in 586BCE), although a numbers of jews were already in exile since the conquest of the Kingdom of Israel in 722BCE by Assyria.
- wlievens 12y agoState and Nation are not the same.
- madaxe_again 12y agoNo, it IS a novel question, and it has yet to be answered. You talk as though Israel is a done deal, when the ongoing situation suggests anything but. Why do you need to do political astro-turfing for Israel on a totally unrelated thread?
- gadders 12y agoI wouldn't call it astro-turfing. For a long time, Israel was a race/people without a homeland. You could maybe say the Palestinians are in that state now as well.
- 67726e 12y agoI sure as shit would call it that.
- sp332 12y agoJust because it doesn't have a definite answer doesn't mean it's a novel question. Otherwise P ?= NP would still be a "novel question".
- 67726e 12y agoI wonder if the fine folks of Kiribati will go about slaughtering civilians as well.
- kabouseng 12y agoYou just had to say something didn't you :D :D :D Now look at the responses at what you have done. (Very tongue in cheek)
- JoeAltmaier 12y ago...and more recently Palestine?
- skywhopper 12y agoI would disagree that this was ever a question. The assumption of the Zionist movement was that a Jewish state was not possible without land and a concentration of population. Jews hadn't been displaced because their land disappeared, they were displaced because they'd been conquered and divided and driven out by empire after empire over a period of thousands of years. I don't think any Jews would have disagreed that without the land, with the population displaced, that they did not represent a state.