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How about just a black list? As the current legally connected owner of the phone you should be allowed to put your phone on a do not connect list BEFORE a new u

How about just a black list? As the current legally connected owner of the phone you should be allowed to put your phone on a do not connect list BEFORE a new user connects it. With such a list in place the new owner, be it legal or illegal, can do nothing with the phone. If some jurisdiction allows the new owner to keep it then so be it but it'll just be a brick. In cases you state the victim won't be able to recover the phone but that's not the idea. The idea is to devalue a phone so it'll be worth far less thus making it less likely to be stolen.

edmccaffrey 17y ago
Do you mean that the original owner puts it on the list when they are still in physical possession of it? If that's so, then will they still be able to connect to it? If the person is blacklisting it only after they notice that it is missing, then it is too late. Under the aforementioned cirucmstances, it transfers ownership once it the bona fide customer buys it from someone, not once the bona fide customer tries to connect it. They could purchase it on eBay before the owner goes from thinking it is misplaced in their house to thinking it is stolen, and it becomes theirs as soon they pay, and then the victim blacklists a device that they no longer own while its still in transit. Even if the owner notices that it is gone before it is bought, they have no way of knowing if it has been sold yet, and neither does the manufacturer. The legal issues are just too nebulous for these types of things to work. The best that they can really do is keep track of what credit cards are used to activate phones or buy books on a Kindle, to trace it to the new legal owner, with a subpoena, who may be able to provide a lead to the thief or a reseller that the victim can go after for cash.

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How about just a black list? As the current legally connected owner of the phone you should be allowed to put your phone on a do not connect list BEFORE a new u

by MichaelApproved 17y ago

edmccaffrey 17y ago
Do you mean that the original owner puts it on the list when they are still in physical possession of it? If that's so, then will they still be able to connect to it? If the person is blacklisting it only after they notice that it is missing, then it is too late. Under the aforementioned cirucmstances, it transfers ownership once it the bona fide customer buys it from someone, not once the bona fide customer tries to connect it. They could purchase it on eBay before the owner goes from thinking it is misplaced in their house to thinking it is stolen, and it becomes theirs as soon they pay, and then the victim blacklists a device that they no longer own while its still in transit. Even if the owner notices that it is gone before it is bought, they have no way of knowing if it has been sold yet, and neither does the manufacturer. The legal issues are just too nebulous for these types of things to work. The best that they can really do is keep track of what credit cards are used to activate phones or buy books on a Kindle, to trace it to the new legal owner, with a subpoena, who may be able to provide a lead to the thief or a reseller that the victim can go after for cash.