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Cute - excellent chart and interaction. Just be careful you don't offend the dons with your scraping. One criticism: Flash?

by gstar 17y ago

trafficlight 17y ago
Who cares if it's flash or not?
- nfriedly 17y ago
  well, I'm browsing on my phone right now, so flash means it's 100% unusable to me.
  - erlanger 17y ago
    Blame Apple if you have an iPhone. This sort of presentation also couldn't work on a small phone, though a text list version should be provided for mobile users (is it?). I hope the author checks out something like Raphael (JS SVG library) and converts it though, because Flash is definitely tacky.
    - matt1 17y ago
      You can visit this site for the text version: http://news.ycombinator.com http://news.ycombinator.com Enjoy :) In all seriousness though: I simply wanted to learn Flash. As an iPhone user myself, I realize its frustrating that it doesn't show up. That being said, even if it did show up you wouldn't be able to make much of it because of the screen size and the sheer business of the chart. It's really meant to be viewed in a normal browser.
      - erlanger 17y ago
        No, the other one is sort of a horse race, which is neat. Maybe show the top sites and their ranks over the past five half hours/full hours in a narrow table that would work in any browser.
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  - byoung2 17y ago
    Try the SkyFire browser if you have a Windows Mobile or Symbian phone http://www.skyfire.com/ http://www.skyfire.com/
    - nfriedly 17y ago
      I am, thanks for the link. [edit] That's absolutely amazing - youtube videos now load faster in my browser than they do in windows media player. Thanks again!
- Zev 17y ago
  Flash means that it takes up 25% of my CPU simply by having the virtue of being opened in a tab.
  - sosuke 17y ago
    Seriously? That sounds odd I'm running the latest version of Flash in Firefox and it is using between 0-6% CPU with 8 tabs open including this Flash chart.
    - catch23 17y ago
      Flash only works well in windows, it's crap on all other operating systems.
  - DTrejo 17y ago
    you're already looking at HN, it's not like you're really gonna need that 25 for anything else right?
    - Zev 17y ago
      you're already looking at HN, it's not like you're really gonna need that 25 for anything else right? Actually, I did need that 25% for something else. Was waiting for code to finish compiling (well, for Clang's Static Analyzer to finish running). It takes more then a few minutes to run on a sizable project. Plus, as jrockway pointed out, it absolutely kills battery life, and I'm on a laptop.
    - jrockway 17y ago
      If he's using a laptop, he's now burning significantly more power. 4 hours of battery life at idle can easily become 30 minutes at a constant 25% CPU load.
  - mooted 17y ago
    Not for me, or anyone at my office.
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- gstar 17y ago
  Probably only me - but to my mind that's a shame. It's only my opinion, but I think Flash is nuts for anything new except video at the moment. I think Flash is: - slow - fairly unstable, even on Windows - a privacy nightmare (cookie system) - being left behind by browser vendors, where there is competition Excanvas on IE and the canvas tag are really well placed for visualisations like these. I built a donut chart in Canvas recently for something I'm working on, and I'm glad I did, because I was able to do an impromptu demo with someone just the other day on my phone. I know it's not a critical piece of engineering, and it doesn't actually matter, but I do personally find Flash dulls my enthusiasm for otherwise very nice things!
matt1 17y ago
I asked and was given the thumbs up.
rimantas 17y ago
Yeah, I have click to flash installed, so my first reaction was "what, flash?". It would be so nice to see it done with http://www.rgraph.net/ http://www.rgraph.net/ or something similar.

Cute - excellent chart and interaction. Just be careful you don't offend the dons with your scraping. One criticism: Flash?

by gstar 17y ago

Cute - excellent chart and interaction. Just be careful you don't offend the dons with your scraping. One criticism: Flash?

trafficlight 17y ago

Who cares if it's flash or not?

nfriedly 17y ago
well, I'm browsing on my phone right now, so flash means it's 100% unusable to me.
- erlanger 17y ago
  Blame Apple if you have an iPhone. This sort of presentation also couldn't work on a small phone, though a text list version should be provided for mobile users (is it?). I hope the author checks out something like Raphael (JS SVG library) and converts it though, because Flash is definitely tacky.
  - matt1 17y ago
    You can visit this site for the text version: http://news.ycombinator.com http://news.ycombinator.com Enjoy :) In all seriousness though: I simply wanted to learn Flash. As an iPhone user myself, I realize its frustrating that it doesn't show up. That being said, even if it did show up you wouldn't be able to make much of it because of the screen size and the sheer business of the chart. It's really meant to be viewed in a normal browser.
    - erlanger 17y ago
      No, the other one is sort of a horse race, which is neat. Maybe show the top sites and their ranks over the past five half hours/full hours in a narrow table that would work in any browser.
  - deleted 17y ago
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  - deleted 17y ago
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- byoung2 17y ago
  Try the SkyFire browser if you have a Windows Mobile or Symbian phone http://www.skyfire.com/ http://www.skyfire.com/
  - nfriedly 17y ago
    I am, thanks for the link. [edit] That's absolutely amazing - youtube videos now load faster in my browser than they do in windows media player. Thanks again!
Zev 17y ago
Flash means that it takes up 25% of my CPU simply by having the virtue of being opened in a tab.
- sosuke 17y ago
  Seriously? That sounds odd I'm running the latest version of Flash in Firefox and it is using between 0-6% CPU with 8 tabs open including this Flash chart.
  - catch23 17y ago
    Flash only works well in windows, it's crap on all other operating systems.
- DTrejo 17y ago
  you're already looking at HN, it's not like you're really gonna need that 25 for anything else right?
  - Zev 17y ago
    you're already looking at HN, it's not like you're really gonna need that 25 for anything else right? Actually, I did need that 25% for something else. Was waiting for code to finish compiling (well, for Clang's Static Analyzer to finish running). It takes more then a few minutes to run on a sizable project. Plus, as jrockway pointed out, it absolutely kills battery life, and I'm on a laptop.
  - jrockway 17y ago
    If he's using a laptop, he's now burning significantly more power. 4 hours of battery life at idle can easily become 30 minutes at a constant 25% CPU load.
- mooted 17y ago
  Not for me, or anyone at my office.
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gstar 17y ago
Probably only me - but to my mind that's a shame. It's only my opinion, but I think Flash is nuts for anything new except video at the moment. I think Flash is: - slow - fairly unstable, even on Windows - a privacy nightmare (cookie system) - being left behind by browser vendors, where there is competition Excanvas on IE and the canvas tag are really well placed for visualisations like these. I built a donut chart in Canvas recently for something I'm working on, and I'm glad I did, because I was able to do an impromptu demo with someone just the other day on my phone. I know it's not a critical piece of engineering, and it doesn't actually matter, but I do personally find Flash dulls my enthusiasm for otherwise very nice things!

matt1 17y ago

I asked and was given the thumbs up.

rimantas 17y ago

Yeah, I have click to flash installed, so my first reaction was "what, flash?". It would be so nice to see it done with http://www.rgraph.net/ http://www.rgraph.net/ or something similar.