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$300 per month? You can finance and colocate big server for that price, as one of my customers does. $300 could also be used to rent 5-10 real servers in differ

by kephra 12y ago

$300 per month? You can finance and colocate big server for that price, as one of my customers does. $300 could also be used to rent 5-10 real servers in different countries, to run your own cloud with GeoIP and Linux containers. An other customer is running a shoutcast cluster of 6 hosts, two in US, 1 in Canada, two in Europe, and one in Korea for half that price. AWS traffic for such a shoutcast cluster would be several thousand $ per week. Drop the stupid cloud. It costs to much. Rewrite your site to use only free software. Get a cheap Xen site. E.g. my own small server cost only €4 per month, offering 100mbit flat. Unfortunate my provider does no longer offer this contract, but there are other affordable hosts. Just take care, that you do not sign at a Virtuozzo/OpenVZ, or some cookie cutter provider who cripples performance like rackspace. If unsure what Xen provider is good, get a real iron at Hetzner spot market for about €20-25, install a minimal Debian on with Linux containers, and run your site within a container. A real iron will likely provide more processing power then your site needs. So you can cross finance the host, by running applications you wrote for customer. And always unbundle DNS contract from hosting contract, so you can switch fast, in case your hosting provider sucks.

skion 12y ago
> And always unbundle DNS contract from hosting contract, so you can switch fast, in case your hosting provider sucks. With Hetzner that is indeed a necessity. They sell cheap iron, but don't expect any support from them and be prepared to move out quickly.
- hackerboos 12y ago
  Hetzner null route you in the event of a DDoS. Better using OVH.
cheald 12y ago
> $300 per month? You can finance and colocate big server for that price In the immortal words of Han Solo, "Yeah, but who's going to sysadmin it, kid? You?" (I agree with you, however.)
- hnha 12y ago
  maybe I have just been lucky but I am running a site on a dedicated Linux server for 3 years without any significant issues. There have been zero security issues. The only downtimes were caused by me. It requires maybe 2 hours of maintenance per month. It is also running on bleeding edge packages. Of course I invested some days into the initial setup but that is fun if it's your hobby.
  - cheald 12y ago
    If you need $300/mo worth of Heroku hosting, chances are good that you aren't doing something that's going to be terribly hands-off. Systems administration isn't hard, but it is involved - there's a lot of learning ramp-up that has to go into it.

by kephra 12y ago

skion 12y ago

> And always unbundle DNS contract from hosting contract, so you can switch fast, in case your hosting provider sucks. With Hetzner that is indeed a necessity. They sell cheap iron, but don't expect any support from them and be prepared to move out quickly.

hackerboos 12y ago
Hetzner null route you in the event of a DDoS. Better using OVH.

cheald 12y ago

> $300 per month? You can finance and colocate big server for that price In the immortal words of Han Solo, "Yeah, but who's going to sysadmin it, kid? You?" (I agree with you, however.)

hnha 12y ago
maybe I have just been lucky but I am running a site on a dedicated Linux server for 3 years without any significant issues. There have been zero security issues. The only downtimes were caused by me. It requires maybe 2 hours of maintenance per month. It is also running on bleeding edge packages. Of course I invested some days into the initial setup but that is fun if it's your hobby.
- cheald 12y ago
  If you need $300/mo worth of Heroku hosting, chances are good that you aren't doing something that's going to be terribly hands-off. Systems administration isn't hard, but it is involved - there's a lot of learning ramp-up that has to go into it.