I disagree with this line of reasoning that because procedures are actively harmful, procedure syntax should be removed from the language. My contentions are th

I disagree with this line of reasoning that because procedures are actively harmful, procedure syntax should be removed from the language. My contentions are that that declaring that procedures are actively harmful is incorrect, further making procedures look more like functions is counter-productive, and finally making them harder to write doesn't make them written less often. A. It has not been demonstrated that all procedures are harmful. The most common testing framework for Scala is JUnit at least among Intellij developers[1], and the most common way to write tests in JUnit is as far as I can tell with the @test def testSomething {} or def testSomething {}, both of these are procedures. They are good procedures! I don't want to belabor this point because I am not a fan of procedures and I am suspicious of them, I try to zero in on them in code review but I don't feel that forcing `: Unit =` accomplishes anything meaningful in discouraging their use. B. Making procedures look more like functions is more harmful than allowing them to have their own syntax. When I am reviewing code, I will immediately try to scan for = versus {, procedures with : Unit = doesn't stand out as much to me as ones written in procedure Syntax. Having read hundreds of thousands of lines of Scala code, I can quickly see the procedures versus the functions. To me making the procedureSyntax go actually makes procedures blend into functions and sends the messages that procedure are just functions that return Unit. Which while true, isn't probably want you want to be thinking when you see a procedure. When you see a procedure, you brain should be switching immediately to an interrogative mode, what side effects is this code upto, should this thing exist? Or if I am reviewing a good programmers code, hmm what made the poor bastard have to write a procedure here, and can I throw him a life line and get his code out of this quicksand. C. Even if procedures are harmful, that doesn't mean that procedure syntax is harmful. Procedure syntax is the only safe way to use type-inference when writing a procedure. Well it's not really type-inference, because it's it own syntax, but that's because there isn't a consistent way to know unit is going to be inferred. Forcing the programmer to use 10 extra keystrokes every time they write a procedure accomplishes what exactly? Either they are don't understand that the procedure they are writing is harmful, and now they seem even more like normal functions to that developer, or they do, but their task requires them to use them, and writing : Unit = doesn't accomplish anything. Thousands of good, working Scala procedures are written every single day and committed to Github. Thousands of terrible ones are also written. And lets not even get started on method local procedures, which often take the form of @tailrec def loop {}, which is, in my experience a much better way to write `while`. To me this whole idea of killing procedureSyntax is akin to removing type inference from var because it's bad practice. Sure using vars are bad practice, but when it's needed why are we punishing the developer that already has to write some bad code? The poor guy already has to write some vars, now were are really going to stick it to him by forcing him to write like it's java and do more typing, because someone deemed vars bad, and therefore they should be harder to write? In Scala we've come to the consensus that we like type inference and we prefer less code to more, I even remember reading an EPFL paper about how because Scala has less LOC it is more readable. As a counterpoint, to me actively harmful is also breaking most examples of a procedure that already exists on stack overflow. Including good old `def main(args : Array[String]) {}` Also I believe that if the forced type annotated Unit syntax was superior, developers aren't stupid they would be using it already. It's considered good practice among several developers, (certainly more than who oppose procedure syntax), to always type annotate public methods, should that be required as well? Imho a -Xlanguage:requirePublicAnnotations that can be toggled on / off as desired, what would actually be much more helpful to producing readable APIs and public Scala code. Having said all that I don't think I am going to convince the anti-procedure-syntax people. This is some serious bike-shedding territory. So can't we all just get along and compromise? You might not agree with my reasons, but hopefully you agree that I didn't just make them up for no reason and that they are pretty strongly held. If it is the contention that removing procedure syntax is an improvement to the language, there is a process for improving the language that is supposed to be followed: Creating a SIP (Scala Improvement Proposal). And further rather than invalidate a coding style still actively used by a majority of Scala programmers why not follow the lead of -Xlanguage:postFixOps and propose adding a -Xlanguage:noProcedureSyntax to the language. That could be done for 2.12 (or even 2.11.3), and codebases good start improving sooner according the noProcedureSyntax people, and I could start using -Xfuture on my company's codebase again. 1: http://parleys.com/play/53a7d2c5e4b0543940d9e546/chapter4/agenda# http://parleys.com/play/53a7d2c5e4b0543940d9e546/chapter4/ag...