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E, the secure distributed pure-object platform and p2p scripting language

23 points by b-man 17y ago

chadaustin 17y ago
For whatever reason, the E language's actor model was the most influential on IMVU's concurrent programming model (in Python). I highly recommend taking a glance through the language description.
zandorg 17y ago
Just a note - Mark (a Ted Nelson collaborator) now works for Google.
pelle 17y ago
I played around with e a lot back in the day. There were a lot of really interesting ideas in it. If you're in to capability security check out the Cap-Talk mailing list: http://www.eros-os.org/mailman/listinfo/cap-talk http://www.eros-os.org/mailman/listinfo/cap-talk
evgen 17y ago
Hmmm.... when did the "p2p scripting language" tag get added to the general description? Ever chasing salvos when it comes to fads it seems. While E is/was pretty cool, the mental overhead required to jump to it from Java (given the general pool of java coders) seems to have been too high of a hurdle for any sort of critical mass to develop. I have higher hopes for Caja (the capability-security enhanced javascript that markm and a couple of others in this area are working on at Google.)
- abecedarius 17y ago
  "p2p scripting language" has been there as long as I can remember. (I was a minor contributor in the early 2000s.) There's more action in Caja-land now, yeah.
- kpreid 17y ago
  "p2p scripting language" has been around for as long as I've been involved in the project. According to the Internet Archive, http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.erights.org/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.erights.org/ , it was added in November 2000. The web site's approach hasn't really been redesigned in a long time. We're chronically short on people-with-spare-time-to-think-about-this-stuff, especially now that MarkM is working at Google (and previously doing a PhD). I myself don't have much spare time either. I think Caja definitely has the greatest potential for mainstream adoption of object-capability+event-loop systems right now, but E is still the “designed for capabilities” language for me, and so I use it for most of my personal programming (data munging, generating my packing list, interactive this-and-that, etc) when I can, so that I can feed the experience back into the design/implementation work for E. [Just registered on HN; this was the first thing I had to say important enough to bother for.]
Freaky 17y ago
Amiga E will always be what I first think of when people talk about E: http://strlen.com/e/ http://strlen.com/e/ Get your own letter shakes fist.

23 points by b-man 17y ago

For whatever reason, the E language's actor model was the most influential on IMVU's concurrent programming model (in Python). I highly recommend taking a glance through the language description.

zandorg 17y ago

Just a note - Mark (a Ted Nelson collaborator) now works for Google.

pelle 17y ago

I played around with e a lot back in the day. There were a lot of really interesting ideas in it. If you're in to capability security check out the Cap-Talk mailing list: http://www.eros-os.org/mailman/listinfo/cap-talk http://www.eros-os.org/mailman/listinfo/cap-talk

evgen 17y ago

Hmmm.... when did the "p2p scripting language" tag get added to the general description? Ever chasing salvos when it comes to fads it seems. While E is/was pretty cool, the mental overhead required to jump to it from Java (given the general pool of java coders) seems to have been too high of a hurdle for any sort of critical mass to develop. I have higher hopes for Caja (the capability-security enhanced javascript that markm and a couple of others in this area are working on at Google.)

abecedarius 17y ago
"p2p scripting language" has been there as long as I can remember. (I was a minor contributor in the early 2000s.) There's more action in Caja-land now, yeah.
kpreid 17y ago
"p2p scripting language" has been around for as long as I've been involved in the project. According to the Internet Archive, http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.erights.org/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.erights.org/ , it was added in November 2000. The web site's approach hasn't really been redesigned in a long time. We're chronically short on people-with-spare-time-to-think-about-this-stuff, especially now that MarkM is working at Google (and previously doing a PhD). I myself don't have much spare time either. I think Caja definitely has the greatest potential for mainstream adoption of object-capability+event-loop systems right now, but E is still the “designed for capabilities” language for me, and so I use it for most of my personal programming (data munging, generating my packing list, interactive this-and-that, etc) when I can, so that I can feed the experience back into the design/implementation work for E. [Just registered on HN; this was the first thing I had to say important enough to bother for.]

Freaky 17y ago

Amiga E will always be what I first think of when people talk about E: http://strlen.com/e/ http://strlen.com/e/ Get your own letter shakes fist.