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Breaking it down by the numbers was useful. Thanks. This offer is indeed before tax, etc. What would you expect in terms of "excellent working conditions"? As

Breaking it down by the numbers was useful. Thanks. This offer is indeed before tax, etc. What would you expect in terms of "excellent working conditions"? As this is remote work, the value of a "startup atmosphere" doesn't exist. IMO, the problem being solved is more on the coordination, perhaps infrastructure spectrum, than a specific hard technical problem. WRT remote work expenses, this hasn't been mentioned, but certainly something to bring up!

notahacker 12y ago
Remote working is a point in the working conditions' favour (not least because you don't have to live on <£17k gross per annum in London, and might even be quite comfortably off on that income in other parts of the EU). But other things to be wary of are tight deadlines that require you to put lots of hours in, founders thinking you're "on call" to fix technical issues in the middle of the night, or should be ready to travel at short notice every time they think a meeting is necessary. That might be tolerable if they were treating you as a cofounder or paying big bucks, but not with the little you're being offered. (Indeed the fact they apparently don't consider it necessary to offer an above-market equity grant to compensate for the below-market salary is not a point in favour of their expectations from employees being reasonable in other respects.) On the flip side, if they're quite happy for you to balance your work for them with side projects, study or generous leisure time it starts to look a lot more attractive. Similarly, the hypothetical post-funding £44k offer might end up being contingent upon being willing to relocate and work from an office, which may or may not be something you're happy to do. And above all you should be very interested in solving the particular infrastructure problem to even consider this, because the alternative of spending 4-6 months earning £17k in a job paying a market rate and the rest of the year doing exactly what you want has it's potential upsides too...

notahacker 12y ago

Remote working is a point in the working conditions' favour (not least because you don't have to live on <£17k gross per annum in London, and might even be quite comfortably off on that income in other parts of the EU). But other things to be wary of are tight deadlines that require you to put lots of hours in, founders thinking you're "on call" to fix technical issues in the middle of the night, or should be ready to travel at short notice every time they think a meeting is necessary. That might be tolerable if they were treating you as a cofounder or paying big bucks, but not with the little you're being offered. (Indeed the fact they apparently don't consider it necessary to offer an above-market equity grant to compensate for the below-market salary is not a point in favour of their expectations from employees being reasonable in other respects.) On the flip side, if they're quite happy for you to balance your work for them with side projects, study or generous leisure time it starts to look a lot more attractive. Similarly, the hypothetical post-funding £44k offer might end up being contingent upon being willing to relocate and work from an office, which may or may not be something you're happy to do. And above all you should be very interested in solving the particular infrastructure problem to even consider this, because the alternative of spending 4-6 months earning £17k in a job paying a market rate and the rest of the year doing exactly what you want has it's potential upsides too...