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Another Xiaomi Shocker

39 points by bryanwbh 12y ago

ksec 12y ago
I dont think the slide or Photos were the shocker. ( May be that is what i expect them to be. ) The comment from Barra was the real shocker. Barra is only a year into his job as leader of Mi’s internationalization efforts, but he’s already “sick and tired” of hearing his company derided as an Apple copycat. He sees Mi as “an incredibly innovative company” that never stops trying to improve and refine its designs, and the allegations of it copying Apple are “sweeping sensationalist statements because they have nothing better to talk about.”
rikacomet 12y ago
It appears to me, that you are jumping the gun too soon here. The photos, might have been ripped off by a good for nothing designer from the marketing dept. There are countless good photos out there, who has the time to check that some stupid-running-late guy/gal did something like this, specially when it is hard work to go and take such artistically/professional photos.
LeicaLatte 12y ago
Media folks have a lot of time in their hands.
MBS 12y ago
Why are we targeting Chinese here? Remember the Nokia episode where they were filming with professional cameras and showing that video as made by Nokia phones? Here is the link http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads-are-fraudulent http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads...
- 2muchcoffeeman 12y ago
  Nokia actually got those ads made. That was an original ad that was fraudulent. Xiaomi is fraudulent and is a blatant copyright infringer. The Xiaomi CEO even copies the style of the late Steve Jobs. It's creepy.
tptacek 12y ago
Nowhere nearly as shocking as his first Xiaomi shocker, which was that in the actual product photos for the phone, the camera lenses were the Apple Aperture logo.
anoncow 12y ago
The marketing department apparently has no scruples or is incompetent.
alokyadav15 12y ago
" Chinese " No offence but they copy everything
- recalibrator 12y ago
  Exactly. The Chinese refuse to acknowledge intellectual property. It seems embedded in their culture.
  - w1ntermute 12y ago
    Just as it used to be embedded in American culture: http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/dickens/pva/pva75.html http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/dickens/pva/pva75.html
    - MBS 12y ago
      Just as it used to be embedded in Finnish companies: http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads-are-fraudulent http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads...
  - recalibrator 12y ago
    I don't have anything against the beautiful Chinese people or their culture. I was just stating what I see as a well-known fact.
- damon_c 12y ago
  The blatant copying of the successful ideas of others to the maximum extent legally allowable under one's prevailing legal jurisdiction is an activity pursued profitably by people of many ethnic groups and nationalities. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/08/how-app-store-grifters-clone-an-overnight-success-to-make-a-quick-buck/ http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/08/how-app-store-grifters-... http://mashable.com/2012/07/02/zynga-games-similar-to-others/ http://mashable.com/2012/07/02/zynga-games-similar-to-others... http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/the2steves92.html http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/the2steves92.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microso.... http://mashable.com/2007/01/03/studivz/ http://mashable.com/2007/01/03/studivz/ etc...
tszming 12y ago
Stealing and copying are part of the Xiami's DNA, you will be even more suprised when Xiami's CEO copy the way how Steve Jobs anounce new product: http://cdn.unwire.hk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/xiaomi-one-more-thing.jpg http://cdn.unwire.hk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/xiaomi-one-m...
mrbonner 12y ago
In Chinese culture copying and making it better is encouraged I think.
- mannykannot 12y ago
  There's no "making it better" here.
  - mariusmg 12y ago
    Not yet :)
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geon 12y ago
> Is passing off photos taken with professional SLRs as shots from their phone’s camera. To be fair, the photos are not used in a context where they could be expected to be representative of the camera quality, nor does the higher quality of the original photos make a difference in the small thumbnails.
cowbell 12y ago
"The phone didn't take those pictures!? Next you'll tell me Terry Crews doesn't even use Old Spice either!" Does he really think anyone expects to get professionally retouched photos out of a phone? As for licensing, I mainly wonder if the girl receives a cut of the income or if she's simply exploited either way.
- DanBC 12y ago
  People should be honest in advertising. In the UK it is very common for a competitor to send complaints about adverts to the regulators. This is almost free to the people sending the complaints but potentially costly to the advertisers. One example of this would be mascara ads, which had very many reports being sent to and fro. Now mascara ads in England either use real product on real eyelashes or they contain disclaimers about the use of fake lashes.

39 points by bryanwbh 12y ago

ksec 12y ago

I dont think the slide or Photos were the shocker. ( May be that is what i expect them to be. ) The comment from Barra was the real shocker. Barra is only a year into his job as leader of Mi’s internationalization efforts, but he’s already “sick and tired” of hearing his company derided as an Apple copycat. He sees Mi as “an incredibly innovative company” that never stops trying to improve and refine its designs, and the allegations of it copying Apple are “sweeping sensationalist statements because they have nothing better to talk about.”

rikacomet 12y ago

It appears to me, that you are jumping the gun too soon here. The photos, might have been ripped off by a good for nothing designer from the marketing dept. There are countless good photos out there, who has the time to check that some stupid-running-late guy/gal did something like this, specially when it is hard work to go and take such artistically/professional photos.

LeicaLatte 12y ago

Media folks have a lot of time in their hands.

MBS 12y ago

Why are we targeting Chinese here? Remember the Nokia episode where they were filming with professional cameras and showing that video as made by Nokia phones? Here is the link http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads-are-fraudulent http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads...

2muchcoffeeman 12y ago
Nokia actually got those ads made. That was an original ad that was fraudulent. Xiaomi is fraudulent and is a blatant copyright infringer. The Xiaomi CEO even copies the style of the late Steve Jobs. It's creepy.

tptacek 12y ago

Nowhere nearly as shocking as his first Xiaomi shocker, which was that in the actual product photos for the phone, the camera lenses were the Apple Aperture logo.

anoncow 12y ago

The marketing department apparently has no scruples or is incompetent.

alokyadav15 12y ago

" Chinese " No offence but they copy everything

recalibrator 12y ago
Exactly. The Chinese refuse to acknowledge intellectual property. It seems embedded in their culture.
- w1ntermute 12y ago
  Just as it used to be embedded in American culture: http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/dickens/pva/pva75.html http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/dickens/pva/pva75.html
  - MBS 12y ago
    Just as it used to be embedded in Finnish companies: http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads-are-fraudulent http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294545/nokias-pureview-ads...
- recalibrator 12y ago
  I don't have anything against the beautiful Chinese people or their culture. I was just stating what I see as a well-known fact.
damon_c 12y ago
The blatant copying of the successful ideas of others to the maximum extent legally allowable under one's prevailing legal jurisdiction is an activity pursued profitably by people of many ethnic groups and nationalities. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/08/how-app-store-grifters-clone-an-overnight-success-to-make-a-quick-buck/ http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/08/how-app-store-grifters-... http://mashable.com/2012/07/02/zynga-games-similar-to-others/ http://mashable.com/2012/07/02/zynga-games-similar-to-others... http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/the2steves92.html http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/the2steves92.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microso.... http://mashable.com/2007/01/03/studivz/ http://mashable.com/2007/01/03/studivz/ etc...

tszming 12y ago

Stealing and copying are part of the Xiami's DNA, you will be even more suprised when Xiami's CEO copy the way how Steve Jobs anounce new product: http://cdn.unwire.hk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/xiaomi-one-more-thing.jpg http://cdn.unwire.hk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/xiaomi-one-m...

mrbonner 12y ago

In Chinese culture copying and making it better is encouraged I think.

mannykannot 12y ago
There's no "making it better" here.
- mariusmg 12y ago
  Not yet :)

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geon 12y ago

> Is passing off photos taken with professional SLRs as shots from their phone’s camera. To be fair, the photos are not used in a context where they could be expected to be representative of the camera quality, nor does the higher quality of the original photos make a difference in the small thumbnails.

cowbell 12y ago

"The phone didn't take those pictures!? Next you'll tell me Terry Crews doesn't even use Old Spice either!" Does he really think anyone expects to get professionally retouched photos out of a phone? As for licensing, I mainly wonder if the girl receives a cut of the income or if she's simply exploited either way.

DanBC 12y ago
People should be honest in advertising. In the UK it is very common for a competitor to send complaints about adverts to the regulators. This is almost free to the people sending the complaints but potentially costly to the advertisers. One example of this would be mascara ads, which had very many reports being sent to and fro. Now mascara ads in England either use real product on real eyelashes or they contain disclaimers about the use of fake lashes.