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Show HN: We Got Your Back

7 points by jdorfman 12y ago

jdorfman 12y ago
For those who think this is "self-serving" you are right. My job is to recruit and hire the best engineers. I don't care what their background is, we need great people to keep up with our competition.
- cbeach 12y ago
  Perhaps try a recruitment site if you want to recruit engineers. Engineers won't be impressed by an empty github repo, sorry.
minimaxir 12y ago
The way this is phrased makes this seem more creepy than genuinely helpful.
- jdorfman 12y ago
  That's the point, we have a crisis and we need to stick up for great engineers no matter what race, religion, gender they might be.
  - cbeach 12y ago
    "We need to stick up for great engineers no matter what race, religion, gender they might be." Repo description: "Are you a female that is scared to join the Tech Industry? Don't be, we got your back" "No matter what gender they might be." As long as they're female.
    - jdorfman 12y ago
      @cbeach What are you doing besides leaving useless comments? Fork it, make it better, "prove me wrong".
alialkhatib 12y ago
A couple thoughts: - +1 to minimaxir's comment; this whole thing sounds creepy. Are you offering a supportive tweet? 1-on-1 mentorship? An inside track at hiring at your respective companies? (is that last one even legal in your jurisdiction?) The vagueness here leads me to assume the worst. I'm sorry for being a cynic and for pre-judging, but not much in this industry has encouraged idealism when it comes to women in tech. - I read "Uber" and thought of the sexual assault from March. Arguably unfair since that was one of your drivers, but that was my knee jerk reaction. You make no effort to explain why you're on the list (not that anyone bothers to explain why this list exists, see previous point), and I'm left to think whatever pops into my head. Again, cynicism reigns. - Delete "harping". In fact, delete the whole line. The word connotes the tediousness of women complaining about all the sexist shit they deal with in Silicon Valley; it sounds like you don't really get where women are coming from (which begs the question again: why are you doing this?). Please try to make this more substantive. I would like to support anything that supports gender equality and inclusiveness, but this is so vague that I don't know what you stand for, what you offer, or what my own support would entail.
- jdorfman 12y ago
  "this whole thing sounds creepy." That is not the intention. Instead of sitting on my ass wondering what I can do, I took an action. Might offend some, might inspire others. I am in for a fight. "I'm sorry for being a cynic and for pre-judging, but not much in this industry has encouraged idealism when it comes to women in tech." You are stating your opinion and I respect it. Don't be sorry. "Are you offering a supportive tweet?" I tweet a lot: @jdorfman "Delete "harping". In fact, delete the whole line. The word connotes the tediousness of women complaining about all the sexist shit they deal with in Silicon Valley; it sounds like you don't really get where women are coming from (which begs the question again: why are you doing this?)." I Open Sourced this for a reason. I am hardly ever right, this is how I learn about issues that I can't understand from one point of view. "Please try to make this more substantive. I would like to support anything that supports gender equality and inclusiveness, but this is so vague that I don't know what you stand for, what you offer, or what my own support would entail." It isn't up to me, it is in the communities hands now. Fork it, make it better & promote diversity.
cbeach 12y ago
"Bug: this repo is a trite, self-serving, empty platitude. Please remove it." https://github.com/jdorfman/wgyb/issues/2 https://github.com/jdorfman/wgyb/issues/2
matt0perry 12y ago
I don't know too many women who are "scared" of joining the tech industry. I do know plenty who have run into the buzz-saw of social, cultural and educational disincentives (not to mention downright ugly sexism) that render them them either poorly-positioned or unwilling to do so. I think your heart is in the right place with this guys, but it trivializes a really serious problem. +1 delete After deleting, I suggest you (and everyone else for that matter) donate to one or both of: http://www.ncwit.org/ http://www.ncwit.org/ http://anitaborg.org/ http://anitaborg.org/
- jdorfman 12y ago
  I promise you this, if I'm wrong I will donate $1,000 dollars USD to each charity. I'm not rich by any means, so 2k would hurt. If you want I'll put it on escrow. I will do that to show you I'm seriously passionate about this issue.

7 points by jdorfman 12y ago

For those who think this is "self-serving" you are right. My job is to recruit and hire the best engineers. I don't care what their background is, we need great people to keep up with our competition.

cbeach 12y ago
Perhaps try a recruitment site if you want to recruit engineers. Engineers won't be impressed by an empty github repo, sorry.

minimaxir 12y ago

The way this is phrased makes this seem more creepy than genuinely helpful.

jdorfman 12y ago
That's the point, we have a crisis and we need to stick up for great engineers no matter what race, religion, gender they might be.
- cbeach 12y ago
  "We need to stick up for great engineers no matter what race, religion, gender they might be." Repo description: "Are you a female that is scared to join the Tech Industry? Don't be, we got your back" "No matter what gender they might be." As long as they're female.
  - jdorfman 12y ago
    @cbeach What are you doing besides leaving useless comments? Fork it, make it better, "prove me wrong".

alialkhatib 12y ago

A couple thoughts: - +1 to minimaxir's comment; this whole thing sounds creepy. Are you offering a supportive tweet? 1-on-1 mentorship? An inside track at hiring at your respective companies? (is that last one even legal in your jurisdiction?) The vagueness here leads me to assume the worst. I'm sorry for being a cynic and for pre-judging, but not much in this industry has encouraged idealism when it comes to women in tech. - I read "Uber" and thought of the sexual assault from March. Arguably unfair since that was one of your drivers, but that was my knee jerk reaction. You make no effort to explain why you're on the list (not that anyone bothers to explain why this list exists, see previous point), and I'm left to think whatever pops into my head. Again, cynicism reigns. - Delete "harping". In fact, delete the whole line. The word connotes the tediousness of women complaining about all the sexist shit they deal with in Silicon Valley; it sounds like you don't really get where women are coming from (which begs the question again: why are you doing this?). Please try to make this more substantive. I would like to support anything that supports gender equality and inclusiveness, but this is so vague that I don't know what you stand for, what you offer, or what my own support would entail.

jdorfman 12y ago
"this whole thing sounds creepy." That is not the intention. Instead of sitting on my ass wondering what I can do, I took an action. Might offend some, might inspire others. I am in for a fight. "I'm sorry for being a cynic and for pre-judging, but not much in this industry has encouraged idealism when it comes to women in tech." You are stating your opinion and I respect it. Don't be sorry. "Are you offering a supportive tweet?" I tweet a lot: @jdorfman "Delete "harping". In fact, delete the whole line. The word connotes the tediousness of women complaining about all the sexist shit they deal with in Silicon Valley; it sounds like you don't really get where women are coming from (which begs the question again: why are you doing this?)." I Open Sourced this for a reason. I am hardly ever right, this is how I learn about issues that I can't understand from one point of view. "Please try to make this more substantive. I would like to support anything that supports gender equality and inclusiveness, but this is so vague that I don't know what you stand for, what you offer, or what my own support would entail." It isn't up to me, it is in the communities hands now. Fork it, make it better & promote diversity.

cbeach 12y ago

"Bug: this repo is a trite, self-serving, empty platitude. Please remove it." https://github.com/jdorfman/wgyb/issues/2 https://github.com/jdorfman/wgyb/issues/2

matt0perry 12y ago

I don't know too many women who are "scared" of joining the tech industry. I do know plenty who have run into the buzz-saw of social, cultural and educational disincentives (not to mention downright ugly sexism) that render them them either poorly-positioned or unwilling to do so. I think your heart is in the right place with this guys, but it trivializes a really serious problem. +1 delete After deleting, I suggest you (and everyone else for that matter) donate to one or both of: http://www.ncwit.org/ http://www.ncwit.org/ http://anitaborg.org/ http://anitaborg.org/

jdorfman 12y ago
I promise you this, if I'm wrong I will donate $1,000 dollars USD to each charity. I'm not rich by any means, so 2k would hurt. If you want I'll put it on escrow. I will do that to show you I'm seriously passionate about this issue.