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Its concerning how the Pro-Russian narrative has been formed over the shooting down of that plane. We don't call the shooting down of planes during the Cold War

Its concerning how the Pro-Russian narrative has been formed over the shooting down of that plane. We don't call the shooting down of planes during the Cold War accidents, but somehow we do for this? The world is coddling Putin for fear of losing his economic ties into countries that control the editorial content of much of the Western press. So we say 'accident' and we say 'supposed' ties to Russia, and we say blatant lies like 'Nazi party has taken over the Ukraine' in Western papers. Sadly, Putin's money is held above morals and truth in Europe. Especially in Germany and France.

arjie 12y ago
For reference, the downing of Iran Air Flight 655 was termed in the US report[1] as a "a tragic and regrettable accident". The report goes on to use the word 'accident' many more times. [1]: http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/International_security_affairs/other/172.pdf http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/International_security_affairs/o...
notahacker 12y ago
I take it your press is different from ours... http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/british-newspapers-are-pretty-clear-who-they-blame-for-the-u http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/british-newspapers-are-p...
Tomte 12y ago
I don't know which Germany you're looking at, but there is significant anti-Putin sentiment and, correspondingly, newspaper stories and commentary calling for harsh measures against Russia. But it is somewhat tempered by the significant anti-American sentiment that we've been experiencing for a bit now. I never thought I'd see this, but it's much, much worse than when Rumsfeld talked about "old Europe" (although that was probably overblown in the European press, I don't think Americans ever understood how damaging that was). Luckily every few years one of the big TV stations is producing another emotional, uplifting "good American" film like http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Luftbr%C3%BCcke_%E2%80%93_Nur_der_Himmel_war_frei http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Luftbr%C3%BCcke_%E2%80%93_N... and in those times you still feel how close we are to the U.S.
scottlocklin 12y ago
Erm, what country are you in? In the US, the media hysteria over what is very obviously an accident seems to be calling for WW-3. Has been since the olympics, really.

arjie 12y ago

For reference, the downing of Iran Air Flight 655 was termed in the US report[1] as a "a tragic and regrettable accident". The report goes on to use the word 'accident' many more times. [1]: http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/International_security_affairs/other/172.pdf http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/International_security_affairs/o...

notahacker 12y ago

I take it your press is different from ours... http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/british-newspapers-are-pretty-clear-who-they-blame-for-the-u http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/british-newspapers-are-p...

Tomte 12y ago

I don't know which Germany you're looking at, but there is significant anti-Putin sentiment and, correspondingly, newspaper stories and commentary calling for harsh measures against Russia. But it is somewhat tempered by the significant anti-American sentiment that we've been experiencing for a bit now. I never thought I'd see this, but it's much, much worse than when Rumsfeld talked about "old Europe" (although that was probably overblown in the European press, I don't think Americans ever understood how damaging that was). Luckily every few years one of the big TV stations is producing another emotional, uplifting "good American" film like http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Luftbr%C3%BCcke_%E2%80%93_Nur_der_Himmel_war_frei http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Luftbr%C3%BCcke_%E2%80%93_N... and in those times you still feel how close we are to the U.S.

scottlocklin 12y ago

Erm, what country are you in? In the US, the media hysteria over what is very obviously an accident seems to be calling for WW-3. Has been since the olympics, really.