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Wanna have fun with emacs? Try to integrate evil mode nicely in different plugins. Especially if you use totally different key bindings in vi (non qwerty layout

by Gonzih 12y ago

Wanna have fun with emacs? Try to integrate evil mode nicely in different plugins. Especially if you use totally different key bindings in vi (non qwerty layout for example). It was very painful experience for me. Yes, vim is far from ideal, yes neo-vim is looking like to be next iteration in vim evolution, yes no parallel tasks execution is pain. But at the same time there is vimproc. For clojure integration there is fireplace.vim which is also amazing in my opinion, for git there is fugitive. I don't see any real comparison in this post, more like "I was bored with vim, now I use emacs".

int3 12y ago
I tried evil-mode myself and came to a similar conclusion re integration. And for package management there's vundle, neobundle, and pathogen. And after my recent discovery of vimproc, I'm now motivated to resume writing plugins!
leishulang 12y ago
Not to mention that the Evil Mode editing messes up the Emacs repl. At least for clojure.
- aidenn0 12y ago
  Works fine with SLIME; I use evil/emacs/slime for my daily lisp dev.
Aissen 12y ago
You have exactly the same problem with a non-standard key-binding/layout and vim. For instance, the default file browsing plugin netrw hardcodes its shortcuts…
- Gonzih 12y ago
  I was able to change netrw. You just need to know few tricks github.com/Gonzih/.vim/blob/master/after/syntax/netrw.vim
farresito 12y ago
Yep, pretty much what I have experienced. I'm a vim user who uses emacs for clojure, and I've found a lot of incompatibilities with other plugins. It's not too bad; evil + paredit make up for those deficiencies.
exDM69 12y ago
Yeah, evil-mode just doesn't play nice with lots of emacs utilities. It's a good idea to use evil-mode only in code/text buffers and stay out of it when using e.g. GUD debugging. This, unfortunately, means that you're going to have to learn two sets of keybindings, the vanilla emacs ones and vim keys.
- MetaCosm 12y ago
  Yeah... getting caught out of evil mode can be scary... WHAT DO I PRESS TO LEAVE... CTRL-F... dafuq?

by Gonzih 12y ago

int3 12y ago

I tried evil-mode myself and came to a similar conclusion re integration. And for package management there's vundle, neobundle, and pathogen. And after my recent discovery of vimproc, I'm now motivated to resume writing plugins!

leishulang 12y ago

Not to mention that the Evil Mode editing messes up the Emacs repl. At least for clojure.

aidenn0 12y ago
Works fine with SLIME; I use evil/emacs/slime for my daily lisp dev.

Aissen 12y ago

You have exactly the same problem with a non-standard key-binding/layout and vim. For instance, the default file browsing plugin netrw hardcodes its shortcuts…

Gonzih 12y ago
I was able to change netrw. You just need to know few tricks github.com/Gonzih/.vim/blob/master/after/syntax/netrw.vim

farresito 12y ago

Yep, pretty much what I have experienced. I'm a vim user who uses emacs for clojure, and I've found a lot of incompatibilities with other plugins. It's not too bad; evil + paredit make up for those deficiencies.

exDM69 12y ago

Yeah, evil-mode just doesn't play nice with lots of emacs utilities. It's a good idea to use evil-mode only in code/text buffers and stay out of it when using e.g. GUD debugging. This, unfortunately, means that you're going to have to learn two sets of keybindings, the vanilla emacs ones and vim keys.

MetaCosm 12y ago
Yeah... getting caught out of evil mode can be scary... WHAT DO I PRESS TO LEAVE... CTRL-F... dafuq?