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I wish some of the "exit only" lanes would change to be zipper-merge-able-- in SF, think about the 7th street exit on 80E just before the Bay Bridge-- two empty
by joshwa 12y ago
I wish some of the "exit only" lanes would change to be zipper-merge-able-- in SF, think about the 7th street exit on 80E just before the Bay Bridge-- two empty lanes!-- and lots of "cheaters" whereas with a zipper merge everything would move faster.
IIRC California officially endorses early merging, though?
- _delirium 12y agoYou could just make two exit lanes in that case, and merge them as or after they exit. People exiting at the last minute from a non-exit lane though aren't really merging, but rather changing lanes. And it doesn't really result in a proper zipper merge since not everyone is exiting, so you can't predictably alternate cars.
- joshwa 12y agoI guess I mean that they shouldn't be exit lanes at all, but should be used as extra capacity to facilitate zipper merges. In the case above, the exit lanes stretch back almost 1/2 a mile, which is waaay above the actual demand for that exit, esp in the evening hours.
- _delirium 12y agoOops, I read your case backwards (I'm not familiar with that exit). I thought you meant that there were too many people exiting for the one exit lane, so you were proposing people from the 2nd-to-right lane should be able to zipper-merge into the exit lane right before it exits. The reverse (merging out of the exit-only lane to stay on the freeway), I think usually works better with a late-merge, but you do still have the problem that you can't do a proper zipper merge, because the lanes aren't fully merging, so you can't alternate one-right/one-left. Instead some cars want to lane-change and some want to continue in the lane, which adds at least a little complexity. It could be partly improved by signage changes though, it sounds like, to just mark the exit lane later.