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Microsoft and also IBM now feel sorry about their wrong behaviour, but it is really ridicolous that they say in the TypeScript project "if you want to help us,

by fibo 12y ago

Microsoft and also IBM now feel sorry about their wrong behaviour, but it is really ridicolous that they say in the TypeScript project "if you want to help us, go to GitHub" ... come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help? Hiring people would be smarter! I went to an IBM meeting talking with the IBM Cloud Leader in Italy and all that hi profile people. All of them use Firefox (no one uses Chrome), did they sponsor Firefox? It seems they are a poor company that now need help. Shame on you Microsoft and IBM!

dspillett 12y ago
> come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help? They are not going to be able to buy community buy-in that they want, no matter who they hire and what other money they throw around. Asking the wider populous for their input early (assuming the filtering and acknowledging of that input is done right, and they continue to "play nice" once they've got what they want) is a good thing for both them and the end user: they'll more likely be able to release something right earlier (rather than everyone hating it until version 3). > did they sponsor Firefox? I'm going to have to ask you to explain the IBM connection here as I'm just not seeing a logical link between these statements and your point about Microsoft. How is IBM people preferring to use Firefox instead of something else? I wan't aware that IBM had any particular axe to grind in the current browser game.
- rcarmo 12y ago
  It's probably just an IT thing. Many companies opted to deploy Firefox internally as an alternative to IE because it played well with their software management tools (as opposed to Chrome, which only got centralized version management later). In IT/helpdesk settings, you want to know what specific browser version your users are running to ensure intranet apps are compatible. Because, you know, legacy. Anyone who's used Siebel, Oracle intranet apps, etc. knows what it's like.
  - dspillett 12y ago
    I know why a browser would be install across the board - the thing that confused me was why the person I was replying to thought it was significant to this thread - there was an implication that it was the same sort of thing as "MS asking for help", which I don't see.

by fibo 12y ago

dspillett 12y ago

> come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help? They are not going to be able to buy community buy-in that they want, no matter who they hire and what other money they throw around. Asking the wider populous for their input early (assuming the filtering and acknowledging of that input is done right, and they continue to "play nice" once they've got what they want) is a good thing for both them and the end user: they'll more likely be able to release something right earlier (rather than everyone hating it until version 3). > did they sponsor Firefox? I'm going to have to ask you to explain the IBM connection here as I'm just not seeing a logical link between these statements and your point about Microsoft. How is IBM people preferring to use Firefox instead of something else? I wan't aware that IBM had any particular axe to grind in the current browser game.

rcarmo 12y ago
It's probably just an IT thing. Many companies opted to deploy Firefox internally as an alternative to IE because it played well with their software management tools (as opposed to Chrome, which only got centralized version management later). In IT/helpdesk settings, you want to know what specific browser version your users are running to ensure intranet apps are compatible. Because, you know, legacy. Anyone who's used Siebel, Oracle intranet apps, etc. knows what it's like.
- dspillett 12y ago
  I know why a browser would be install across the board - the thing that confused me was why the person I was replying to thought it was significant to this thread - there was an implication that it was the same sort of thing as "MS asking for help", which I don't see.