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I disagree. It's possible to get advanced output from various command line tools in Linux, and it's possible to get networking information. It's much more diffi
by deathanatos 12y ago
I disagree. It's possible to get advanced output from various command line tools in Linux, and it's possible to get networking information. It's much more difficult to do that on other OSs, especially Windows. I loathe debugging network troubles in Windows, because there is essentially no information. OS X has most of your standard tools, though some in some odd places, e.g., printing the routing table not being done with `route`.
Furthermore, I care. My 2013 Macbook Pro is terribly slow to associate to even nearby APs, and drops the connection often. I have no idea why, because it is opaque: how do you list nearby APs? their signal strength or encryption type? I didn't learn this until just now, and it's,
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Versions/A/Resources/airport -s
Seriously. There's no way I'll remember it, and if you're reaching for it, you likely can't Google it. And it appears to be deprecated. It's a much shorter command in Linux, and in general I find it easier to determine if the problem is the network connection or DHCP failure. IIRC, Network Manager's icon changes — admittedly not much – depending on which one it's on, so even without command line tools, I have some idea what's going on.
OS X has the troubleshooter dialog, but that's never been able to fix the problem. (In general, I feel, those things never do. They also never tell you what they're doing. For all I know, they're just progress bars and timers.) WiFi off, WiFi on fixes a lot of problems.
- chrisbolt 12y agoOpen Wireless Diagnostics in /System/Library/CoreServices/Applications, then click Window -> Utilities. Gives lots of detailed info, frame capture, logging, etc. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ndc35q0gxynffl/Screenshot%202014-07-23%2019.22.29.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ndc35q0gxynffl/Screenshot%202014-...
- kalleboo 12y agoYou can access it easier by holding down the "option" key and selecting the Wifi menu http://imgb.mp/jxy.jpg http://imgb.mp/jxy.jpg
- lloeki 12y agoairport -s is incredibly important in setting up roaming correctly with heterogeneous APs. You absolutely want SECURITY column to be identical, else devices won't roam. > There's no way I'll remember it I have history(1) and a symlink in a toolbox git repo. > you likely can't Google it "!g OSX airport command" works fine > route I found netstat -r is the most "Unix-portable" way of querying the routing table (Windows route is a peculiar beast anyway). route is deprecated on linux in favor of ip route.
- TwiztidK 12y ago> > you likely can't Google it > "!g OSX airport command" works fine Of course. The parent was referring to a situation when someone lacks internet access, due to a networking problem they are trying to fix, rendering them unable to use Google to find the command.
- rasz_pl 12y ago>I disagree. It's possible to get advanced output from various command line tools in Linux dont worry, Lennart Poettering (systemD/pulseaudio) is working to solve this problem
- jaseemabid 12y agoSarcasm?
- stevenhuang 12y agoOh man, the audio problems I sometimes had with pulseaudio...
- koffiezet 12y agoOn OSX, just press option and click on your wifi-icon. You'll see the signal strength, channel, speed, encryption type etc of the AP you're connected to expanded in the dropdown menu.