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"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Be
by socrates1998 12y ago
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
- Martin Niemöller
- mpnordland 12y agoGodwin's law comes true alarmingly quickly on HN.
- stefantalpalaru 12y agoYou know what's more alarming? Sweeping nazism under the rug because Godwin's law.
- sroerick 12y agoYou know, I'm increasingly becoming very disenchanted with Godwin's law. I think that Nazis are a great study and we should compare as many things as possible to them, as a cautionary tale. I understand that "Nazi!" gets thrown around heedlessly, but I'm suspicious of any retorical device whose job is to tell you when to stop thinking.
- krapp 12y agoBut to be fair, most attempts to analogize Nazism and Hitler are intended to stop you from thinking and stifle debate. Once someone claims that, for example, the US government is the modern analogue to the Nazis and they'll come for you soon, dear hacker, the way they came for the Jews then they're saying that, as far as they're concerned, anyone who would suffer further debate about the issue is defending an absolute and irredeemable evil. Or they're just engaging in paranoid, thoughtless hyperbole. Either way, it isn't helpful.
- socrates1998 12y agoOnce you are put on a list, it becomes very easy to take away your rights. And when the government doesn't publish how people get on the list, then anyone can be put on it with no legal justification.