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>'This goes far beyond "one wierd fact" headlines. Authorship requests and articles published in scientific venues (CFLAS) bring this issue into the scope of th

>'This goes far beyond "one wierd fact" headlines. Authorship requests and articles published in scientific venues (CFLAS) bring this issue into the scope of things that academics care about.' Not really. Worrying about one of thousands if not millions of online petitions [1] that anyone can create is on par with fretting over whatever foolishness someone publishes on their blog. There are a lot of people quoting and re-quoting that petition claim with anger and horror but there's not a single link to it and Google uncovers nothing. I would not surprise me if such a petition exists, but whether it matters at all is highly questionable. >'Many of them don't have the time or the inclination to get to the bottom of PR scandals.' What scandal? The story of the girl will/would be forgotten tomorrow. It only becomes anything resembling scandal Streisand style as a result of the response [2]. 1: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/outlaw-offending-prophets-major-religions/94kL1tsN https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/outlaw-offending-p... 2: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/23/marine-biologist-stolen-idea/13039871/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/23/marine-biologi...

jjoonathan 12y ago
> Not really. Yes, really. Competition in academia is fierce. Professorship positions typically have dozens to hundreds of applicants each -- and all of those applicants have made significant contributions to a field of research (PhD) and then some (postdoc). Non-academic qualifications such as outreach, teaching evaluations, and so on are an important dimension along which aspiring academics can differentiate themselves. > What scandal? If the girl helped put together the paper and wasn't listed as an author, that would be a scandal. If you search Jud's name on google and a petition to add someone to one of his papers pops up, even the most rational person would assign a nonzero probability to the possibility that he did, in fact, wrong her. It is a SEO/PR problem.

jjoonathan 12y ago

> Not really. Yes, really. Competition in academia is fierce. Professorship positions typically have dozens to hundreds of applicants each -- and all of those applicants have made significant contributions to a field of research (PhD) and then some (postdoc). Non-academic qualifications such as outreach, teaching evaluations, and so on are an important dimension along which aspiring academics can differentiate themselves. > What scandal? If the girl helped put together the paper and wasn't listed as an author, that would be a scandal. If you search Jud's name on google and a petition to add someone to one of his papers pops up, even the most rational person would assign a nonzero probability to the possibility that he did, in fact, wrong her. It is a SEO/PR problem.