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I don't know what the situation is with Windows Mobile or any of the other mobile OS's, but with the big two it goes like this: iOS: You get updates for your d

by ZoFreX 12y ago

I don't know what the situation is with Windows Mobile or any of the other mobile OS's, but with the big two it goes like this: iOS: You get updates for your device for a decently long time after you buy it, even after new devices come out. Android: You stop getting updates (all updates: security fixes are NOT backported) somewhere between 6 months to 2 years after getting your device, assuming it's a brand new product line. If it's not the latest and greatest there's a chance it's already out of date, and won't be receiving any updates at all. Even if you do get updates, depending on the device they may be months or even years after they are released. So, ignoring any other mobile OS's, your choice is "a few known issues and an attitude problem" with iOS or "walking around with well publicised wide-open security vulnerabilities in your pocket" with Android.

Alupis 12y ago
This isn't an Android vs iOS issue -- I take issue when any company ignores or brushes off a security problem. That does not detract from the current situation at all.
- ZoFreX 12y ago
  What I wanted to highlight is that the "big picture" of security with Apple is one of taking things seriously, not ignoring or brushing things off.
  - tripzilch 12y ago
    Only if you compare certain aspects of it to certain (other!) aspects of other manufacturers. That was the point. Saying "oh but other manufacturers do other things badly" needlessly polarizes the argument and detracts from Apple's fuck-up, which is the topic of discussion here. Of course not providing security updates after a a relatively short time is a bad thing to do, but how is that even relevant to the backdoors in this article? (edit: changed "Android" to read "manufacturers", as em3rgent0rdr rightly pointed out your complaint doesn't have anything to do with the OS, but the manufacturers providing locked devices with Android OS on it. with Apple/iOS this just happens to be the same party)
em3rgent0rdr 12y ago
Actually if you use an android open source based distro like cyanogenmod or ornirom, you will likely be able to continuously get nightly updates. Android is a code ecosystems...you should really be harping criticisms of lack of updates to the individual manufactures such as Motorola or Samsung or HTC if you are comparing to Apple.

by ZoFreX 12y ago

Alupis 12y ago

This isn't an Android vs iOS issue -- I take issue when any company ignores or brushes off a security problem. That does not detract from the current situation at all.

ZoFreX 12y ago
What I wanted to highlight is that the "big picture" of security with Apple is one of taking things seriously, not ignoring or brushing things off.
- tripzilch 12y ago
  Only if you compare certain aspects of it to certain (other!) aspects of other manufacturers. That was the point. Saying "oh but other manufacturers do other things badly" needlessly polarizes the argument and detracts from Apple's fuck-up, which is the topic of discussion here. Of course not providing security updates after a a relatively short time is a bad thing to do, but how is that even relevant to the backdoors in this article? (edit: changed "Android" to read "manufacturers", as em3rgent0rdr rightly pointed out your complaint doesn't have anything to do with the OS, but the manufacturers providing locked devices with Android OS on it. with Apple/iOS this just happens to be the same party)

em3rgent0rdr 12y ago

Actually if you use an android open source based distro like cyanogenmod or ornirom, you will likely be able to continuously get nightly updates. Android is a code ecosystems...you should really be harping criticisms of lack of updates to the individual manufactures such as Motorola or Samsung or HTC if you are comparing to Apple.