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By this standard, whoever criticizes some policies - eg the wars in Afghanistan or in Iraq - of the USA (and this includes tens of millions of US citizens) shou

By this standard, whoever criticizes some policies - eg the wars in Afghanistan or in Iraq - of the USA (and this includes tens of millions of US citizens) should be ostracized by the US tech community? Edit: added reference to controversial and important policies

mjburgess 12y ago
The USA is usually comfortable with its actions to one degree or another. Israel constantly lashes out on the defensive as though they have no justification.
tux1968 12y ago
He didn't even criticize, all he did was reference articles without comment.
- xname 12y ago
  only reference articles with one side of story does not seem problematic to you?
  - tux1968 12y ago
    Well, he's not a reporter. Perhaps this is just the side of the story that touched his heart. Or perhaps his intention was to highlight biased reporting. We just don't know, all we can do is jump to a conclusion. Whatever the case, it doesn't rise to the level of antisemitism.
Zikes 12y ago
Based on the comment from Carthy at the end of the article, it's the compulsory service that makes them sensitive. Even though they're carrying out orders they could and should object to, they're still just carrying out orders, and apparently that should make them immune to criticism.
- FireBeyond 12y ago
  Isn’t there an irony at the use of the Nuremburg defense here?
- ufmace 12y ago
  Could also be that hundreds of rockets are landing in their cities, causing citizens to routinely seek out bomb shelters with about 10 seconds notice. That tends to make people report for military service enthusiastically and take great personal offense at people who they see as cheerleading for the other side. There's a lot to be said for both sides of this conflict, but portraying it as Israel just up and decided to bomb a bunch of innocent people for no reason sounds more like propaganda for the Palestinians' side than a fair look at the issues.
  - danmaz74 12y ago
    Who is 'portraying it as if...'?
xname 12y ago
I don't think Israels consider this military conflict as just "some policies". You don't see the seriousness of this conflict, do you? You think Israels just want to kill, so they go out to kill?
- danmaz74 12y ago
  I added a reference to the policies I was thinking about - eg the wars in Iraq and in Afghanistan. And regarding the seriousness of this conflict, yes, I see hundreds of deaths. I see it as very serious.

mjburgess 12y ago

The USA is usually comfortable with its actions to one degree or another. Israel constantly lashes out on the defensive as though they have no justification.

tux1968 12y ago

He didn't even criticize, all he did was reference articles without comment.

xname 12y ago
only reference articles with one side of story does not seem problematic to you?
- tux1968 12y ago
  Well, he's not a reporter. Perhaps this is just the side of the story that touched his heart. Or perhaps his intention was to highlight biased reporting. We just don't know, all we can do is jump to a conclusion. Whatever the case, it doesn't rise to the level of antisemitism.

Zikes 12y ago

Based on the comment from Carthy at the end of the article, it's the compulsory service that makes them sensitive. Even though they're carrying out orders they could and should object to, they're still just carrying out orders, and apparently that should make them immune to criticism.

FireBeyond 12y ago
Isn’t there an irony at the use of the Nuremburg defense here?
ufmace 12y ago
Could also be that hundreds of rockets are landing in their cities, causing citizens to routinely seek out bomb shelters with about 10 seconds notice. That tends to make people report for military service enthusiastically and take great personal offense at people who they see as cheerleading for the other side. There's a lot to be said for both sides of this conflict, but portraying it as Israel just up and decided to bomb a bunch of innocent people for no reason sounds more like propaganda for the Palestinians' side than a fair look at the issues.
- danmaz74 12y ago
  Who is 'portraying it as if...'?

xname 12y ago

I don't think Israels consider this military conflict as just "some policies". You don't see the seriousness of this conflict, do you? You think Israels just want to kill, so they go out to kill?

danmaz74 12y ago
I added a reference to the policies I was thinking about - eg the wars in Iraq and in Afghanistan. And regarding the seriousness of this conflict, yes, I see hundreds of deaths. I see it as very serious.