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Presumably it's easier to rob a house at night. If someone is away, you can do that.

by eurleif 12y ago

watwut 12y ago
Most robberies happen during the day when people are in work and streets are noisy. Attempting to rob city house in night sounds like even more stupid thing then daytime robbery.
- gerhardi 12y ago
  There are valid scenarios for robbing during the night - for example in many holiday destinations with villas, holiday apartments etc. it is expected that when there are people inside the house, there is also cash money, laptops, tablets, smart phones and other small easily carriable items with value worth the effort available.
chippy 12y ago
It might be easier to burgle a house during the day, when the target and the neighbours are more likely to be at work. Anecdotally, my house was burgled around 3pm and my friends was also burgled whilst at work.
nl 12y ago
Between 60%[1] and 75%[2] of burglaries occur during the day. I've been burgled before. They dressed up in white "painters" overalls, carried some tools and no one asked anything. Broad daylight, broke the door. [1] http://homesecurity.lifetips.com/faq/139392/0/do-burglaries-happen-more-in-the-day-or-night/index.html http://homesecurity.lifetips.com/faq/139392/0/do-burglaries-... [2] http://www.apartmentwiz.com/houston_apartments_information/when_a_burglary_will_occur.php http://www.apartmentwiz.com/houston_apartments_information/w...
- JonnieCache 12y ago
  Steel toe-caps, a hi-visibility jacket and some emulsion-spattered trousers will allow one to get away with pretty much anything, even in the broadest of broad daylight. We once cut the lock on a friend's very nice bike (she lost the key) using an angle grinder and a miniature generator, in the middle of the high street in the middle of the afternoon, and nobody batted an eyelid. We were dressed in normal clothes. TBF we probably got away with that because it was so blatant. Still, it's amazing what people will ignore. Bystander effect and all that.
  - gioele 12y ago
    > We once cut the lock on a friend's very nice bike (she lost the key) using an angle grinder and a miniature generator, in the middle of the high street in the middle of the afternoon, and nobody batted an eyelid. What should have they done? Call the police? What would the police do? Question you? Ask about your identities? How would they identify your friend as the owner of the bike?
    - JonnieCache 12y ago
      Well, nice bikes are commonly engraved with postcodes here, so that would be something. I'd have expected for some people to at least stare at us or something, but it was like people were trying their best to ignore us, like we had the Somebody Else's Problem field from hhgg, which I suppose we did. I suppose that's my point really: most of "security" is just the social contract in action. The reason you don't get robbed is because nobody wants to rob you.
    - brazzy 12y ago
      > What would the police do? Question you? Ask about your identities? That might actually be useful if the record your ID and later connect it with a bike getting reported as stolen at that location.
    - rfrey 12y ago
      Since moving to Toronto I've witnessed three people trying to smash locks in street. I stopped them all and asked "Should I believe you should be doing that?" Two of them said they owned the bike and gave some plausible explanation and way to back it up, and were prepared for me to check. They both thanked me for asking. The third one told me to fuck off, and ran away. Certainly the first two could have been thieves, I'll never know.
      - epaladin 12y ago
        Props for trying. I would like to think I would do the same in such a scenario but it does seem like a personal safety risk. Although I'd hope to not get shot over a bike, there are people who have been shot over shoes before.
- scardine 12y ago
  Many years ago a friend was arrested for tampering with ATMs, at the jail they told him it was his fault because he was doing it late in the night. According to the crime scholars there, everything you do late at night is suspicious and likely to get police attention. Indeed, he was arrested when he was leaving the ATM and the officer spotted the packs of bills on his jacket in a routine frisk (in Brazil an officer can make arbitrary pat downs).

Presumably it's easier to rob a house at night. If someone is away, you can do that.

by eurleif 12y ago

Presumably it's easier to rob a house at night. If someone is away, you can do that.

Most robberies happen during the day when people are in work and streets are noisy. Attempting to rob city house in night sounds like even more stupid thing then daytime robbery.

gerhardi 12y ago
There are valid scenarios for robbing during the night - for example in many holiday destinations with villas, holiday apartments etc. it is expected that when there are people inside the house, there is also cash money, laptops, tablets, smart phones and other small easily carriable items with value worth the effort available.

chippy 12y ago

It might be easier to burgle a house during the day, when the target and the neighbours are more likely to be at work. Anecdotally, my house was burgled around 3pm and my friends was also burgled whilst at work.

nl 12y ago

Between 60%[1] and 75%[2] of burglaries occur during the day. I've been burgled before. They dressed up in white "painters" overalls, carried some tools and no one asked anything. Broad daylight, broke the door. [1] http://homesecurity.lifetips.com/faq/139392/0/do-burglaries-happen-more-in-the-day-or-night/index.html http://homesecurity.lifetips.com/faq/139392/0/do-burglaries-... [2] http://www.apartmentwiz.com/houston_apartments_information/when_a_burglary_will_occur.php http://www.apartmentwiz.com/houston_apartments_information/w...

JonnieCache 12y ago
Steel toe-caps, a hi-visibility jacket and some emulsion-spattered trousers will allow one to get away with pretty much anything, even in the broadest of broad daylight. We once cut the lock on a friend's very nice bike (she lost the key) using an angle grinder and a miniature generator, in the middle of the high street in the middle of the afternoon, and nobody batted an eyelid. We were dressed in normal clothes. TBF we probably got away with that because it was so blatant. Still, it's amazing what people will ignore. Bystander effect and all that.
- gioele 12y ago
  > We once cut the lock on a friend's very nice bike (she lost the key) using an angle grinder and a miniature generator, in the middle of the high street in the middle of the afternoon, and nobody batted an eyelid. What should have they done? Call the police? What would the police do? Question you? Ask about your identities? How would they identify your friend as the owner of the bike?
  - JonnieCache 12y ago
    Well, nice bikes are commonly engraved with postcodes here, so that would be something. I'd have expected for some people to at least stare at us or something, but it was like people were trying their best to ignore us, like we had the Somebody Else's Problem field from hhgg, which I suppose we did. I suppose that's my point really: most of "security" is just the social contract in action. The reason you don't get robbed is because nobody wants to rob you.
  - brazzy 12y ago
    > What would the police do? Question you? Ask about your identities? That might actually be useful if the record your ID and later connect it with a bike getting reported as stolen at that location.
  - rfrey 12y ago
    Since moving to Toronto I've witnessed three people trying to smash locks in street. I stopped them all and asked "Should I believe you should be doing that?" Two of them said they owned the bike and gave some plausible explanation and way to back it up, and were prepared for me to check. They both thanked me for asking. The third one told me to fuck off, and ran away. Certainly the first two could have been thieves, I'll never know.
    - epaladin 12y ago
      Props for trying. I would like to think I would do the same in such a scenario but it does seem like a personal safety risk. Although I'd hope to not get shot over a bike, there are people who have been shot over shoes before.
scardine 12y ago
Many years ago a friend was arrested for tampering with ATMs, at the jail they told him it was his fault because he was doing it late in the night. According to the crime scholars there, everything you do late at night is suspicious and likely to get police attention. Indeed, he was arrested when he was leaving the ATM and the officer spotted the packs of bills on his jacket in a routine frisk (in Brazil an officer can make arbitrary pat downs).