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Image Editing Given that Adobe is betting the house on flash and the web would now be a good time to start a startup to create next generation Image Editing de

by icefox 17y ago

Image Editing Given that Adobe is betting the house on flash and the web would now be a good time to start a startup to create next generation Image Editing desktop application? Photoshop seems like the app that the interns are getting assign to maintain while the "cool" devs are off working on some web / flash projects.

maxklein 17y ago
Image Editing still has to run locally, you cannot have a request sent to the server everytime you resize an image or apply a filter. Yes, you can make it download-on-demand, as per flash, but it still needs to launch quickly, have fast and complete access to the local filesystem as well as the web, and this is a bit challenging to the current crop of browsers.
- icefox 17y ago
  Exactly my point. So Adobe is going to invest their best developers and gobs of money trying to make a web based photoshop. What if I were to form a startup that made a new next-generation Desktop Image Editor based on Qt (cross platform ftw) with the goal of being able to surpass Photoshop.
  - cellis 17y ago
    I believe that has already been tried with Splashup http://splashup.com/ http://splashup.com/.
    - icefox 17y ago
      Your reply hint that Splashup is a desktop Image Editor that is set to take over Photoshop, but clicking on the link presents me with a POS flash app. Are you trying to say that Splashup already proved that Photoshop will fail to make a web app? It doesn't really matter because Adobe has drunk the Flash cool-aid and will make a Photoshop web app no matter how many have tried before because they will think they can do it better.
  - jhancock 17y ago
    There is a market of at least 1, me, for a graphics editor that a smart (I understand the nature of graphics files), but non-trained (in photoshop) person can use. I've tried pixelmator a few times, but I have absolutely no idea how to use the damned thing. It looks simple enough. Yesterday, I opened an image and simply wanted to double the width, keeping the gradient "in tact". I couldn't even figure out how to select the area I needed (which was the whole of the image on the canvas). So how about a "photoshop for programmers"?
    - rincewind 17y ago
      http://packages.debian.org/lenny/nip2 http://packages.debian.org/lenny/nip2 http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/vips-7.10/doc/nipbeginguide.pdf http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/vips-7.10/doc/nipbeginguide....
GHFigs 17y ago
What makes you think that Adobe is abandoning Photoshop? Photoshop.com/Photoshop Express shares the branding, but it's an entirely different product targeted at an entirely different market.
- ThomPete 17y ago
  there are of course applications like sumopaint.com that are quite good. But they are a far cry from photohop, illustrator, 3Dmax, aftereffects and so on. If anyone want's to create a WYSIWYG HTML/CSS editor that would use the browser's HTML as a canvas then I would be interested. Until that day, I am fine with apps like Fireworks for application and web design.
- icefox 17y ago
  Adobe isn't abandoning Photoshop, but reading the financial reports it is pretty easy to figure out where management is steering the boat, devoting time and resources.

by icefox 17y ago

maxklein 17y ago

Image Editing still has to run locally, you cannot have a request sent to the server everytime you resize an image or apply a filter. Yes, you can make it download-on-demand, as per flash, but it still needs to launch quickly, have fast and complete access to the local filesystem as well as the web, and this is a bit challenging to the current crop of browsers.

icefox 17y ago
Exactly my point. So Adobe is going to invest their best developers and gobs of money trying to make a web based photoshop. What if I were to form a startup that made a new next-generation Desktop Image Editor based on Qt (cross platform ftw) with the goal of being able to surpass Photoshop.
- cellis 17y ago
  I believe that has already been tried with Splashup http://splashup.com/ http://splashup.com/.
  - icefox 17y ago
    Your reply hint that Splashup is a desktop Image Editor that is set to take over Photoshop, but clicking on the link presents me with a POS flash app. Are you trying to say that Splashup already proved that Photoshop will fail to make a web app? It doesn't really matter because Adobe has drunk the Flash cool-aid and will make a Photoshop web app no matter how many have tried before because they will think they can do it better.
- jhancock 17y ago
  There is a market of at least 1, me, for a graphics editor that a smart (I understand the nature of graphics files), but non-trained (in photoshop) person can use. I've tried pixelmator a few times, but I have absolutely no idea how to use the damned thing. It looks simple enough. Yesterday, I opened an image and simply wanted to double the width, keeping the gradient "in tact". I couldn't even figure out how to select the area I needed (which was the whole of the image on the canvas). So how about a "photoshop for programmers"?
  - rincewind 17y ago
    http://packages.debian.org/lenny/nip2 http://packages.debian.org/lenny/nip2 http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/vips-7.10/doc/nipbeginguide.pdf http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/vips-7.10/doc/nipbeginguide....

GHFigs 17y ago

What makes you think that Adobe is abandoning Photoshop? Photoshop.com/Photoshop Express shares the branding, but it's an entirely different product targeted at an entirely different market.

ThomPete 17y ago
there are of course applications like sumopaint.com that are quite good. But they are a far cry from photohop, illustrator, 3Dmax, aftereffects and so on. If anyone want's to create a WYSIWYG HTML/CSS editor that would use the browser's HTML as a canvas then I would be interested. Until that day, I am fine with apps like Fireworks for application and web design.
icefox 17y ago
Adobe isn't abandoning Photoshop, but reading the financial reports it is pretty easy to figure out where management is steering the boat, devoting time and resources.