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That's great that the drive unit was covered under warranty.. that was Edmunds 4th drive unit in 30,000 miles. Of course, once it hits 50k miles, the warranty p
by rgbrenner 12y ago
That's great that the drive unit was covered under warranty.. that was Edmunds 4th drive unit in 30,000 miles. Of course, once it hits 50k miles, the warranty period is over, and it's $15000 to replace it.
MotorTrend reported the same problem.. they've already had it replaced twice.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2312325-tesla-may-have-a-huge-unfunded-warranty-problem-due-to-defective-drivetrains?app=1&uprof=45&dr=1 http://seekingalpha.com/article/2312325-tesla-may-have-a-hug...
- baddox 12y agoWow. I've never had a vehicle worth more than $15,000. That's one expensive part.
- grecy 12y agoYour vehicles were very likely worth more than $15,000 when new. You've just never had a new vehicle. Also, engine replacements on new gasoline vehicles run around $10k.
- sliverstorm 12y agoTrue, but when was the last time you heard about a car that needed a whole new engine every 7k miles? It's an interesting question actually, are Tesla motors only really serviceable as a unit? That could be bad news. A new gasoline engine might be $10k, but 99% of the time you just replace a belt or a pulley or a seal, or take off the top and do some machining for a few thousand.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoThe electric drive motor is about the size of a watermelon and weighs ~70lbs. Its easier to pull it and swap in a new one than to tear it down on-site.
- yaeger 12y agoIf the alternative is to pay 15k for a new one, I don't care what is easier for the technicians. I care about what is most price friendly for me, the customer. If I think about it, no example comes to mind where I would be okay with paying much much more for something because the relevant technician says "I'll be easier for me if you buy a new one instead of me fixing this."
- gambiting 12y agoThe electrical motors can be rewound, but it's definitely a process no one will be able to do on site - the motor would need to be sent off to a company that has equipment necessary to do it. Still, it should be cheaper than $15k.
- bitJericho 12y agoPerhaps Tesla does or should give a rebate for sending back the old part who can then turn around and refurbish it.
- runamok 12y agoI would be almost certain they would have a core fee reimbursement of some sort.
- hueving 12y agoA house with mold is easier to burn down and rebuild rather than completely gut it out. That doesn't mean that's the correct decision.
- blub 12y agoAre we talking about a specific type of mold? What makes it so difficult to get rid of?
- sliverstorm 12y ago
- altcognito 12y agoYou can get a new engine and transmission installed for under 10k on most mass produced mid-range sedans.
- jonknee 12y agoWhat about the Tesla is similar to mass produced mid-range?
- josefresco 12y agoThe Model 3 will be much closer to this characterization, and will be using much of the same technology as the Model S.
- nick_riviera 12y agoI suspect they are the 2013 Retina MBP of cars. Even the rather unreliable MultiJet engine I have in my car has had a total maintenance bill of around $2000 over 70k miles. This was for an EGR valve that got stuck and a timing chain.
- rbcgerard 12y agoI wonder if tesla (dealer mechanics) or the eventual non-tesla mechanics will adopt the model in the aircraft industry of engine leasing? Bad motor? Drop in a loaner that you pay a daily fee for while yours is shipped to facility the can repair yours, after which the loaner gets swapped for your original motor...
- josefresco 12y agoA new gasoline or diesel "engine" (whatever that means) costs nowhere near $10K. Even at a standard to high shop rate, that cost is on the high side. Also, an "engine" is really a collection of components, unless we're talking about simply the "engine block". Source: Family of petrol-heads.
- jonknee 12y agoYou're forgetting labor costs...
- josefresco 12y agoEdit: Not at all forgetting labor costs. With labor, you can have a new motor for mass market vehicle installed for under $10K (US)
- dragontamer 12y agoYahoo answers concurs. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100310205608AAL5ufv https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100310205608A... With an average labor per hour cost of anywhere from 80 to 120 dollars, you're probably looking at anywhere from 1280 to 1920 for just labor. It will probably take two techs two days to perform the work. Plus the cost of the parts needing for mods, if I had to give you an educated guess I would say you're looking at paying anywhere from 1500 to 3000.
- grecy 12y agoI'm looking at putting a new engine into my Jeep Wrangler right now. A crate HEMI runs ~9k new, and you can't get it installed for less than ~$4k in labor. I'll be able to get a used one for ~$5k Obviously some cars a cheaper, but I wouldn't want to be swapping engines in a BMW or Merc (competitors for the Model S)
- josefresco 12y agoA crate HEMI is in no way a "standard" replacement engine for a Jeep Wrangler. While it is a common swap for the Jeep (for hardcore off-roaders), it's equivalent to a high performance motor, for which you should expect to pay a premium.
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- jusben1369 12y agoWhat's interesting here too is that these costs can come back to haunt you on the leasing side. Tesla's leasing programs "guess" at what the value of the car will be when the lease ends. Should this issue turn out to be true and therefore drive down resale value they'll be buying/getting many of these cars back at prices they can't get when they turn around and resell them. Assuming of course it turns out to be any sort of real issue.