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This article isn't actually about the shooting down of any flights. It's about the more general way the Russian government operates. Maybe it would have been a

This article isn't actually about the shooting down of any flights. It's about the more general way the Russian government operates. Maybe it would have been a better article had it not mentioned any flights, lest the conversation be derailed by debate over the causes & outcomes of the recent tragedy.

acqq 12y ago
> This article isn't actually about the shooting down of any flights. Have you read it? It actually writes: "The mass murder of passengers & crew of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 using Russian’s weapons and (most likely) by hands of Russian military squad exposed to the world that Russia is now complicit in committing crimes against humanity." Now what do you think about proved US and Ukrainian plane shootings? Aren't they crimes?
- hackerboos 12y ago
  >Aren't they crimes? Absolutely and it's unlikely that those incidents resulted in sanctions against those countries. It just highlights how hypercritical the US, Ukraine and the rest of the international community are. All three of these states commit crimes - none of them should be excused.
  - acqq 12y ago
    Should we consider them all the "crimes against humanity"? Is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable_car_disaster_(1998) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable_car_disaster_(19... "on February 3, 1998, near the Italian town of Cavalese, a ski resort in the Dolomites" "Twenty people died when a United States Marine Corps EA-6B Prowler aircraft cut a cable supporting a gondola of an aerial tramway." "the subsequent acquittal of the pilots, strained relations between the United States and Italy." Or is this "just a human error"? Where to draw the line?
  - cafard 12y ago
    The US never denied that it had shot down the Iranian 737. It paid compensation to the families of victims. Which is the third state you have in mind?
    - hackerboos 12y ago
      So by that logic if Russia admits supplying arms to rebels it's ok? The three states are US, Ukraine and Russia.
      - c23gooey 12y ago
        to continue with the example above - would also mean that Russia engage in some sort of compensation with the victims

acqq 12y ago

> This article isn't actually about the shooting down of any flights. Have you read it? It actually writes: "The mass murder of passengers & crew of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 using Russian’s weapons and (most likely) by hands of Russian military squad exposed to the world that Russia is now complicit in committing crimes against humanity." Now what do you think about proved US and Ukrainian plane shootings? Aren't they crimes?

hackerboos 12y ago
>Aren't they crimes? Absolutely and it's unlikely that those incidents resulted in sanctions against those countries. It just highlights how hypercritical the US, Ukraine and the rest of the international community are. All three of these states commit crimes - none of them should be excused.
- acqq 12y ago
  Should we consider them all the "crimes against humanity"? Is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable_car_disaster_(1998) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable_car_disaster_(19... "on February 3, 1998, near the Italian town of Cavalese, a ski resort in the Dolomites" "Twenty people died when a United States Marine Corps EA-6B Prowler aircraft cut a cable supporting a gondola of an aerial tramway." "the subsequent acquittal of the pilots, strained relations between the United States and Italy." Or is this "just a human error"? Where to draw the line?
- cafard 12y ago
  The US never denied that it had shot down the Iranian 737. It paid compensation to the families of victims. Which is the third state you have in mind?
  - hackerboos 12y ago
    So by that logic if Russia admits supplying arms to rebels it's ok? The three states are US, Ukraine and Russia.
    - c23gooey 12y ago
      to continue with the example above - would also mean that Russia engage in some sort of compensation with the victims